<div style="font-family: arial; font-size: 14px;"><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Swear?  Not at all! I applaud any effort at standardization for interoperability, especially when it benefits the Open Source world.  Good work!</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">I think LLC is fine for atlas scale (1:1M + ) static maps of Canada.  But it's not very useful for dynamic web mapping.  Web Mercator is somewhat better, but if you are focused on the North, then it has problems.  And that's one more reason why I'm a fan of CesiumJS; it has a globe you can spin and zoom (but you can't see the entire world's geography at a glance).</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">The Canadian Government's use of LLC as the standard for dynamic web mapping is puzzling to me; must be paper mapping inertia.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Brent</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;" contenteditable="false"><span fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"> </span></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><hr id="previousmessagehr" fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; clear: both; user-select: none;"><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><span fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">From</strong>: "Jeff McKenna" <jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">Sent</strong>: 4/22/22 12:42 PM<br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">To</strong>: geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org<br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><strong fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">Subject</strong>: Re: [geomoose-psc] April 2022 PSC meeting notes are on the wiki</span></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">On 2022-04-22 3:22 p.m., Brent Fraser wrote:</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">> Environment Canada's web site uses</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">> Lambert Conformal Conic suitable for Southern Ontario, but not for the</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">> Canadian prairies.</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Ah yes, and another small world for you: this projection was submitted</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">as an official EPSG entry, by me! (EPSG:3978, used by all "Canada</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Atlas" products and web services) Back in 2008 I was exhausted of</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">supporting custom-projection questions for this projection (and after</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">years of no-response from the federal-level people on this) I finally</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">submitted it to the EPSG geodetic group myself. It's become quite a</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">legacy ha, that EPSG projection code is now used throughout Canadian web</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">services as default (and there in the EPSG geodetic history is</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">"submitted by GatewayGeo, 2008")</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">Small world!</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">So before you swear at me for this projection, imagine what life was</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">like when they were using a non-supported projection & then trying to</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">enable this in FOSS4G software!?!</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">-jeff</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><br fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"></div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">_______________________________________________</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">geomoose-psc mailing list</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;">geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org</div><div fr-original-style="" style="box-sizing: border-box;"><a fr-original-style="" href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-psc" rel="noopener noreferrer" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(0, 102, 147); text-decoration: underline; user-select: auto;" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-psc</a></div></div>