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    On 6/30/22 13:00, Eli Adam wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 8:35
            AM Dan Little <<a href="mailto:theduckylittle@gmail.com"
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            <div dir="auto">RFC-4 is why I thought we may need an RFC
              for this. Since it would supersede what is in the previous
              RFC. Maybe RFC-4’s codification if the standard was
              misguided but we’re stuck with it now. </div>
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          <div>After rereading RFC-4, I don't think that we codified any
            standards in the RFC and were wise enough to make reference
            to standards (which have already changed once before see
            /developer/standards vs /docs/style_guide).  Updating the
            style guide and a simple PSC vote by email or IRC at the
            next meeting make sense to me but I'd like to hear from
            others too.  </div>
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            rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">We could also revise
            RFC-9 to accept whatever we put
            <div dir="auto">into the style guide and the style guide is
              changed by simple vote. </div>
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          <div>If we did paint ourselves into the corner with RFC-4, I
            think this is a better path out.  I see it as already
            falling into the realm of routine project functions.  </div>
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    I'm also not seeing how RFC-4 precludes updating the style guide
    without an RFC.<br>
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    Although, I also don't see that this discussion is inappropriate for
    an RFC.  This is a request for comments on a proposal that impacts
    the project.  Members can comment, propose amendments, and vote to
    express agreement or disagreement and a RFC seems like the
    appropriate way to document that process.  I know we've been
    treating RFCs somewhat equivalent to making a constitutional
    amendment, but I really don't think a RFC needs to carry that much
    weight to be useful/valid.<br>
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    For example, look at the recent MapServer RFCs:<br>
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      <li class="toctree-l1"><a class="reference internal"
          href="https://mapserver.org/development/rfc/ms-rfc-133.html">MS
          RFC 133: Mapfile Syntax Cleanup</a></li>
      <li class="toctree-l1"><a class="reference internal"
          href="https://mapserver.org/development/rfc/ms-rfc-134.html">MS
          RFC 134: OGC API Support</a></li>
      <li class="toctree-l1"><a class="reference internal"
          href="https://mapserver.org/development/rfc/ms-rfc-135.html">MS
          RFC 135: MapServer 8.0 Config file</a></li>
      <li class="toctree-l1"><a class="reference internal"
          href="https://mapserver.org/development/rfc/ms-rfc-136.html">MS
          RFC 136: Rename shp2img to map2img</a></li>
      <li class="toctree-l1"><a class="reference internal"
          href="https://mapserver.org/development/rfc/ms-rfc-137.html">MS
          RFC 137: Native FlatGeobuf support</a></li>
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    <p>A couple have fairly broad impact, but most of them are fairly
      trivial in nature, down to renaming a single file.  I think RFCs
      are better used for documenting the decision making process rather
      than setting something in stone.  Which is to say, I don't think
      we need to be afraid of RFCs (as long as we have a functional PSC
      anyway).  RFCs are cheap, it's just a file and a vote.<br>
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    <p>And just because I've recently had discussions about implementing
      <span>Architectural Decision Records for internal projects and
        realizing they basically serve the same function as RFCs:<br>
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    <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://cognitect.com/blog/2011/11/15/documenting-architecture-decisions">https://cognitect.com/blog/2011/11/15/documenting-architecture-decisions</a><br>
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