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I created it with status "development" to promote any further
discussion. When we are done discussing it, the status changes to
proposed and it triggers the 2 day vote on the list.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/28/26 2:19 PM, Eli Adam wrote:<br>
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Good points Jim. </div>
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I agree that addressing more than this PR in an RFC for the
project is a better approach. That would make</div>
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CONTRIBUTING.md derivative and all are free to make it more
complete/helpful in the future without triggering a whole
process. The better approach is at odds with wanting to have
something in place promptly. We'll see if someone volunteers to
do an RFC. Taking this shortcut route definitely creates oddity
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>From: geomoose-psc
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:geomoose-psc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"><geomoose-psc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org></a> on behalf of Jim
Klassen</div>
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>via geomoose-psc <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org"><geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org></a></div>
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>Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2026 8:47 PM</div>
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>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org"><geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org></a></div>
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>Subject: Re: [geomoose-psc] MOTION: adopt guidelines for
contributing to GeoMoose</div>
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>Eli and all,</div>
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>I agree we can't be voting on a changing document and like
that you linked to a specific</div>
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>commit for the motion. If the motion was still live, I
would suggest that the</div>
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>motion/vote would be approving the text in that commit and
not following the changes in</div>
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>the PR. But, I think it was right to retract it.</div>
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>I would classify the new changes as more cleanup work
(adding/fixing links) than changes</div>
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>to the core policy text. What would the process be if these
changes were proposed after</div>
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>the motion hypothetically passed? Would they trigger the
need for another</div>
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>motion/vote? </div>
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>This particular file is a little strange to me because it is
in the gm3 repo (by necessity of</div>
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>making it more visible to new users and modern tooling) but
where we generally don't</div>
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>have this level of formality generally reserved for RFCs.</div>
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>There are further changes I think we should include in a
CONTRIBUTING.md file, such as</div>
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>going into more detail about how to write a helpful issue or
PR. Also, the process of the</div>
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>author attesting that they have the right to release the
code under the GeoMoose license</div>
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>murky at the moment and should probably be made more
concrete. RFC-4 covers</div>
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>committers/maintainers making such a declaration and being
listed in the AUTHORS file,</div>
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>but leaves the process of determining if outside contributed
code is properly licensed to</div>
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>My view is that we have an emergent need to publish an
AI/LLM policy. Given current</div>
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>norms, this needs to live in the code repo if it is going to
be seen by the people/agents</div>
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>that we want to be aware of it. My goal here isn't getting
to a perfect CONTRIBUTING.md</div>
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>file before we move forward with publishing an AI policy. I
am trying to make the</div>
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>CONTRIBUTING.md file useful its own right (because once it
exists, people will assume it</div>
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>authoritative) and for it to be aligned with the existing
official policies in the RFCs, docs,</div>
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>and website. I don't think CONTRIBUTING.md is the proper
place to create policy.</div>
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>My current thinking is that we should make the AI/LLM policy
section from the</div>
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>CONTRIBUTING.md file as it is currently in the PR into a
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>whole GeoMoose project (not just the gm3 code base) and put
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>that AI policy along with the other established policies.
And then because</div>
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>CONTRIBUTING.md is just referencing existing policy (instead
of creating policy), we are</div>
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>free to make it more complete/helpful in the future without
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>Also, I noticed that as per RFC-4:</div>
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> * we need to update the AUTHORS file. Two members of the
PSC are committers but are</div>
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>not currently listed in the AUTHORS file.</div>
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> * Changes like adding the COGs and GeoParquet support
probably should've been RFCs and</div>
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>not just votes on the PSC list as they seem like they might
qualify as "larger</div>
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>changes".</div>
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This is just a matter of judgement, but probably. </div>
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> * or we could change RFC-4 to match how we are operating in
practice. I am happy either</div>
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>way about what rules we want to have in place, I just think
we should be following our</div>
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>own</div>
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>rules.</div>
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Yes, we should follow our own rules (so it is less a matter of
judgement above). I did add it to my list to clean this up and
discuss making our rules match what seems to be our practice.
Which is also the practice (and rules) from the projects we
emulated. For me this is still down the road. </div>
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At issue is this sentence:</div>
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MapServer - Proposals need to be available for review for at
least two business days before a final decision can be made.</div>
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GDAL - Proposals need to be available for review for at
least two business days before a final decision can be made.</div>
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GeoMoose- Proposals need to be available for review as an RFC
posted on the GeoMoose site for at least two business days
before a final decision can be made.</div>
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That may be the only change we need but I wanted to read more
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In the context of adding a contributing guideline/LLM policy, <a
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https://github.com/geomoose/gm3/pull/1016</a> , we'll have to
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>Jim</div>
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>On 8/27/26 3:51 PM, Eli Adam via geomoose-psc wrote:</div>
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>Hi Jeff and all,</div>
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>There is no motion to vote on (I retracted it/-1 it).
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>Pertaining to process, there can't be changes and votes
happening at the same time. People now have an opportunity
>to discuss or make more changes
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/geomoose/gm3/pull/1016">https://github.com/geomoose/gm3/pull/1016</a> . Once there appears
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>Best regards, Eli</div>
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>From: geomoose-psc
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:geomoose-psc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"><geomoose-psc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org></a> on behalf of Jeff
McKenna via geomoose-psc
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>Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2026 12:29 PM</div>
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>To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>
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>Subject: Re: [geomoose-psc] MOTION: adopt guidelines for
contributing to GeoMoose</div>
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>(I added another change into that pull request:</div>
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><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/geomoose/gm3/pull/1016">https://github.com/geomoose/gm3/pull/1016</a> )</div>
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>+1 jeff</div>
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On 2026-08-27 3:40 p.m., Eli Adam via geomoose-psc wrote:</div>
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> Hi all,</div>
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> We discussed this some at the last PSC. Dan and Jim have a
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> completed and it is ready for voting. Here it is for
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> CONTRIBUTING.md <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/geomoose/gm3/">https://github.com/geomoose/gm3/</a></div>
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> Please review and vote (making sure to include the email
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> I'll start the voting:</div>
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> +1 Eli</div>
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> Best regards, Eli</div>
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> A note on process: I'm making this motion on the email
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> let it run for at least two business days and then declare
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> result. The subject line also makes this very clearly a
MOTION.</div>
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