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I'm not sure I have the style awareness to offer useful feedback. Yes, I like these slightly more than the existing, probably GNOME over Breeze. </div>
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These seem like slim (see above, I may not have the style awareness for this) improvements which suggests only paying minimal costs (disruption). Chris makes a good point on site.css and admin changes. </div>
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I have a dream where our standard theme is a bit more modern and where we tell users "Set this accent color variable(s)" and we do smart things with making the theme fit the user's branding better.</div>
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<b>From:</b> geomoose-psc <<a href="mailto:geomoose-psc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">geomoose-psc-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> on behalf of Bob Basques via geomoose-psc <<a href="mailto:geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 9, 2026 3:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dan Little <<a href="mailto:theduckylittle@gmail.com" target="_blank">theduckylittle@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> GeoMOOSE PSC <<a href="mailto:geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">geomoose-psc@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [geomoose-psc] Modernizing GeoMoose UX</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr;font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif">I think I'm generally in favor of anything that follows the system preference, I use dark themes whenever possible as well, so . . . and because you asked . . .</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr;font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif">An option. for inverting the map display would be great, especially for night/dim light viewing, or maybe call it night view? like so:</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">My initial version was based on the GNOME & COSMIC desktops. It's what I use, personally, but also I have a preference for it these days. That work can be seen here:</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr"> - <a href="https://github.com/geomoose/gm3/pull/1044" id="m_6846081559902720727OWA9ff608b7-6465-6f6f-7c56-640f7945896a" target="_blank">
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<div style="direction:ltr">Jim has some different thoughts (and defaults), so I did a fork of the GNOME-inspired version and used the KDE HIG for a run. Those results are here:</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">A few questions for the larger group:</div>
<div style="direction:ltr">1. Do folks like one or either of these?</div>
<div style="direction:ltr">2. Is adopting a new default style worth the potential disruption?</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">Please don't try to nit-pick some of the smaller details. This is a quick-pass starting point that would take some real user feedback and workflow clean up to be totally plausible. We can make some decisions ourselves as well to
deviate from some of the HIGs if we decided to adopt one.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">I have a dream where our standard theme is a bit more modern and where we tell users "Set this accent color variable(s)" and we do smart things with making the theme fit the user's branding better.</div>
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