[Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?

Eli Adam EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us
Fri Aug 5 12:36:57 EDT 2011 

Nitin,

> I did get MS4W working, but not Geomoose at
http://localhost/geomoose/ 

Looks like gradual progress.  
Does MS4W working means that you go to localhost and get the MS4W info
and details page?

> 
> Here's what I did, in order:
> 
> (1) Downloaded "ms4w_2.3.1.zip" from here:
> http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/ 
> 
> (2) Already downloaded "GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo"
from here:
> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html 
> 
> (3) I transferred both of the *.zip files above to C:\
> 
> (4) I unzipped each of them with winrar, and files with the same
names
> as above were created as following:
> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
> C:\ms4w_2.3.1

This unzipping step is where things seem to have gone wrong.  winrar
apparently defaults to creating a new folder and not merging things. 
Try the unzipping step again with a different program (like the default
windows utility) or changing settings on winrar.  When you unzip both
those folders you should get C:\ms4w\(more here) and then the geomoose
contents should get placed inside those folders like
C:\ms4w\apps\geomoose2\

> 
> The files were separate.
> 
> (5) I went to:
> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
> 
> And double-clicked.
> 
> (6) I restarted the computer
> 
> (7) I checked http://localhost/ 
> 
> And I saw Mapserver
> 
> (8) Since, the following file was separate:
> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W
> 
> I "cut":
> C:\GeoMOOSE-mercdemo-2.4-MS4W\ms4w
> 
> and "pasted" in:
> C:\
> 
> and when it asked me to "merge", I clicked "yes"
> 
> (9) I tried to go to:
> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
> 
> but got a "404 not found" message
> 
> (10) I tried restarting the computer, and I went to:
> http://localhost/geomoose/ 


This looks like a mistake on my part.  The apache alias seems to be
geomoose2 not geomoose.  However, just go to localhost and scroll to the
bottom and it should show you how many application you have installed
along with links to click on.  That will take you to
http://localhost/geomoose2/geomoose.html (this works partly for me).

I'd recommend the other demo at
http://geomoose.org/downloads/GeoMOOSE-2.4-MS4W.zip  That is the one
that I tried when I first started and it seems to be the main demo and
work well.

HTH, Eli


> 
> and it still didn't work
> 
> (11) I tried to click:
> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-uninstall.bat
> 
> then clicked
> 
> C:\ms4w_2.3.1\ms4w\apache-install.bat
> 
> and then tried again to go to http://localhost/geomoose/ 
> 
> and it still didn't work.
> 
> (12) I again tried restarting the computer, and again went to:
> http://localhost/geomoose/ 
> 
> and it still didn't work
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've done everything according to the instructions provided me,
> however when I unzip the files, it is very different from what the
> instructions say should happen, as detailed above. Unless you know
> what is wrong clearly from what I wrote above, please try and do it
> yourself according to the instructions I've been provided, and tell
me
> if I'm missing something.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nitin
> 
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 4:04 PM, Eli Adam <EAdam at co.lincoln.or.us>
wrote:
>> Nitin,
>>> The directions have some serious problems:
>>>
>>> *First of all, the instructions at the wiki appear to be identical
to
>> these
>>> instructions, which are WAY easier on the eyes, along with
>> screenshots:
>>> - Wiki:
>>>
>>
http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Installation#Windows_Installation_Gui

>>
>>> de
>>> - Identical better format:
>> http://www.geomoose.org/docs/install_ms4w.html 
>>
>> Thanks for fixing up the wiki formatting.  Yes, I think that it was
>> copied from one place to the other.
>>
>>>
>>> *It says not to use "MS4W 3.0 beta 10 and GeoMOOSE, we recommend
that
>> you
>>> use MS4W 2.3.1"
>>> - looking in the history here, it was upgraded from "beta 10" on
>> 4/20/10,
>>> and it is into "version 3.03" as of 7/12/11":
>>> http://w
ww.maptools.org/ms4w/index.phtml?page=HISTORY.txt 
>>
>> MS4W 3.0.3 uses MapServer 6.x which GeoMoose is not quite ready for.
 I
>> think that Jim is currently updating that.  I would recommend MS4W
>> 2.3.1.  You can find it at, http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ms4w/ 
>>
>>>
>>> *I download the following files:
>>> - MS4W: http://www.maptools.org/ms4w/ 
>>> - GeoMOOSE 2.4 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo:
>>> http://geomoose.org/info/download.html 
>>>
>>> *The files are different from what it explains in the instructions.
I
>> ended
>>> up merging the folders that were in the geomoose folder with what
was
>> in the
>>> MS4W folder, and when I typed in [http://localhost/] nothing
showed
>> up.
>>>
>>
>> Both of these zip files are designed to be extracted at the root of
C:
>> (MS4W should be done first)  That will put a geomoose folder into
>> C:\ms4w\apps\  It will also probably put a httpd_geomoose_m24w.conf
in
>> C:\ms4w\httpd.d\ which sets up an Apache alias like this:
>>
>> Alias /geomoose/ "/ms4w/apps/geomoose/htdocs/"
>>
>> GeoMoose will be found at http://localhost/geomoose/ (or whatever
your
>> .conf file sets up).  However, according to the README_INSTALL.txt
at
>> C:\ms4w\, you should have gotten the main ms4w page at localhost. 
Try
>> making sure that you have gone through all the proper steps to
install
>> ms4w.  The read me covers a lot of things, like have the MS
>> redistributables if needed, etc.  Specific errors and details can
be
>> helpful for remote troubleshooting.  So does going to localhost give
an
>> error?  Is there anything in the apache logs?  In general, MS4W is
set
>> up to extract .zip files at the root of the drive and have
everything
>> working.  Searching the ms4w mailing list
>> http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/ms4w-users-f4995553.html may
>> help with particular errors or operating system details.
>>
>> Best Regards, Eli
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What do I need to do??
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Nitin
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bob Basques
>>> <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  All,
>>>>
>>>>  Ok, sorry about that I confused GM1.6 with GM2.6, for some
reason
>> they
>>>> looked the same to me.  Oops.
>>>>
>>>>  I have installed GeoMoose 2.4 on a Windows 7 machine
successfully
>> with
>>>> OSGEO4W (similar to MS4W, but with a lot more stuff)  MS4W is
also
>> supported
>>>> by the GeoMoose community, and is the preferred install method
for
>> Windows,
>>>>  while I had to configure things manually for the OSGEO4W version
of
>> things.
>>>>  I would stay away from OSGEO4W to begin with and stick with MS4W
in
>> the
>>>> near term.
>>>>
>>>>  bobb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ... looks like i didn't reply-all before either...
>>>>
>>>> Earlier I asked Bob Basques whether I need a Windows Server
edition
>>>> installed, or I can just use what I have (windows 7 ultimate).
>>>> I suppose that Bob was implying that I can just install it with
what
>> I
>>>> have.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>> nitin
>>>>
>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Nitin Gadia
<nittyjee at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  oops, i didn't reply-all
>>>>>
>>>>> Those instructions look easy enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll try to do it today...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> in the meantime, what will I have if I am just going to install
>> the
>>>>> “GeoMOOSE 2.2 for MS4W”?
>>>>> Will I be able to see any basemaps?
>>>>> I suppose if I want ot see any basemaps I might just install the
>> “GeoMOOSE
>>>>> 2.2 for MS4W - Web Mercator Demo”?? Are there any downsides to
>> just
>>>>> installing the demo? Isn't web mercator a standard anyway?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks a lot
>>>>>
>>>>> nitin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Dan Little
<danlittle at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Yeah, referring to the .info website is not a good idea
anymore.
>> It
>>>>>> will probably expire at the end of this year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    The old .info site only re
fers to 1.6 stuff and that is long
>> out of
>>>>>> anything resembling support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Bob Basques <Bob.Basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us>
>>>>>> *To:* Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com>;
>>>>>> geomoose-users at lists.sourceforge.net 
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 3, 2011 4:37 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Geomoose-users] how to install geomoose?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Nitin,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Start here for a windows install:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>
>>>
>> 
>
http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Ite

> 
>>
>>> mid=30
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   other OSs are here as well:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>
>>>
>> 
>
http://www.geomoose.info/moose1/index.php?option=com_content&task=category&sect

> 
>>
>>> ionid=4&id=13&Itemid=30
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   bobb
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> Nitin Gadia <nittyjee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to install a server, and install geomoose on it.
>>>>>> How do I do this??
>>>>>> I'm very new to doing this, so please bear with me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Nitin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>
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