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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dan / Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks for both of your thoughts….its
appreciated…I am just starting to explore this…seems that all my questions are
loaded ones…hard to ask specific questions when I am entering uncharted
territory.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am not looking for all the
answers just something a bit more concrete….where I might be able to ask more
intuitive questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Again I plead ignorance….this is
all new to me…just trying to get some answers…I appreciate your help and
thoughts…<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dan…from what you said </span><span
style='color:black'>“</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>None
of the GeoMOOSE tools expose the raw-data to users of the services at large.” </span><span
style='color:#1F497D'>So I should be secure on that end<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Say I have an app
out there that I only want X amount of users to access and no one else. Do I configure
the individual IPs (users) on the web server to allow access? Do I use
passwords? Any thoughts? Say you had a client….Company X….I only want that company
to access that data on the app….how can this be accomplished…(IPs configured in
the web server?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Say I had a portal
page that has 5 different sites. How do I secure that so only specific people
can enter a specific site.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Say I introduce a MySQL
or similar database. How do I insure security on that data? Say the database
is running on the server and receiving info from another location(on the same
server). The database tables XY coordinates are continually changing and are
being rendered in the app by an OGF/OGR file. I need that table to be inaccessible
through the web….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Dan did you mean to say proxies
are necessary or unnecessary below? So If I had my own Web Server, Firewalls I
should be fine without a proxy server correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I am not against getting someone
to host this…but seriously looking at my own server/web server….as you said the
apps are pretty light….should be able to go buy a web server for $500-700, get
a dedicated internet connection and be alright….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hope you guys can shed some light
on the questions above….If the shapefiles are secure then all I have to be careful
about is the images and the database tables.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Guys<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dan Little
[mailto:danlittle@yahoo.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:47 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jay Kapalczynski; geomoose-users@lists.sourceforge.net;
geomoose-developers@lists.sourceforge.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geomoose-users] Internet/Proxy?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Answering
this is a little difficult because the questions are very much "broad
stroke" questions and security tends to be more "detail stokes."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>1)
What are you trying to secure? From whom? If you're trying to secure the
shapefiles from being downloaded then you are fine. None of the GeoMOOSE
tools expose the raw-data to users of the services at large.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>2)
If you're looking for a hosting solution I'd recommend looking into one of the
following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> a)
Host it on a pre-existing server. GeoMOOSE fits nicely inside of an existing
IIS or Apache setup. None of the files are all that large and with
virtual domain hosting it's pretty easy to create
"geomoose.mycity.mn.us" or something that gets your online mapping a
nice niche on the web.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> b)
Pay someone else to do it. My personal recommendation would be to use
BrianF at Houston Eng. Not only local but Brian has been ACTIVELY
contributing back to the project through his MS4W packages *AND* contributes
back to the project to get enhancements made. It also helps that he
already has a system setup for doing hosting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>3)
Get your IT staff to give you an old server. GeoMOOSE really doesn't need
ALOT to get up and running. Having a server running MS4W is a pretty
light load all things considered and serving up a number of sizable shapefiles
never really gets more than about 10-20G. So a server with something as
small as a 60G hard disk with a couple of gigs of RAM is more than sufficient.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Proxies
are necessary unless you're trying to do something with cross-site scripting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Firewalls
let you block ports on the computer. Using option a) or b), this
configuration would be done for you. Using option c), you'd harass an IT
guy to make sure that only the necessary ports were open to the internet (like
oh, just 80 and 443). If what I just said seems too daunting then maybe
option "b)" is the best one. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jay Kapalczynski
<jkapalczynski@ci.maple-grove.mn.us><br>
<b>To:</b> "geomoose-users@lists.sourceforge.net"
<geomoose-users@lists.sourceforge.net>; "geomoose-developers@lists.sourceforge.net"
<geomoose-developers@lists.sourceforge.net><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 8, 2009 9:10:52 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Geomoose-users] Internet/Proxy?</span><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I have a few questions regarding my GeoMoose application and
Other Web Apps I have….and what I need/should do to get it out to the internet.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>My main concern is getting the app out to the internet and
making sure the data is secure. I am very new to this and would be most
appreciative of any feedback and direction to help figure this out.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I assume I need to find a host, or build the system where I
host it (figure that would be expensive)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I have heard about firewalls and proxys etc….but need a bit
more help and direction.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Can Anyone briefly outline what I need if I get it hosted vs
what I would need if I hosted myself….<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks <o:p></o:p></p>
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