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color=#0000ff size=2>Hello</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Thank you all for your quick response and the useful
information. I will compile the requirements of our 5 stakeholder groups
into one document and get that out to you the first of next
week.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=495102619-25022011><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Have a great weekend.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Christopher
Kroot</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>Enterprise GIS Analyst</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2>Maine Office of GIS</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>SHS 174</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
lang=en-us><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>264 Civic Center Drive</FONT></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>Augusta ME
04333-0174</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>christopher.kroot@maine.gov</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2>207-592-0162</FONT></SPAN> </P>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Brian Fischer
[mailto:bfischer@houstoneng.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 25, 2011
11:56 AM<BR><B>To:</B> DEAN ANDERSON; Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us;
geomoose-users@lists.sourceforge.net; Kroot, Christopher<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[Geomoose-users] GeoMoose organization<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Christopher,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">As
one of the people that has been involved with GeoMOOSE since its inception as an
OS project, things have evolved greatly over the past 4-5 years as Bob pointed
out. In the past 1-2 years we have seen GeoMOOSE evolve with different
organizations and I feel we are really at the point now where we need to make
the next leap in making the GeoMOOSE project have more formal guidance documents
to help move ideas through the process and a way to come to consensus on
them. We have talked about doing this a year ago but nothing has really
happened on that front. We did form a loose “Project Steering Committee”
but really don’t use it for votes or any formal process
yet.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Over
the past year a lot of the new enhancements you are seeing have been funded by
the Oregon group or other Houston Engineering clients and we struggle with how
to appropriately get those back into the core code by following some type
of process. Most of the contribute code has been through Houston
Engineering or Dan Little. In my opinion we need a couple of governance
documents to help people and organizations understand the process to
contribute. I think one big improvement that has happened is the new wiki
that allows the community to contribute easier. I started to organize this
around the thought of getting to more of a formal process in place. <A
href="http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page">http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page</A>
I think there are some good examples of this process already in place with the
MapServer (<A
href="http://mapserver.org/development/rfc/ms-rfc-1.html">http://mapserver.org/development/rfc/ms-rfc-1.html</A>)
and OpenLayers (<A
href="http://trac.osgeo.org/openlayers/wiki/HowToContribute">http://trac.osgeo.org/openlayers/wiki/HowToContribute</A>)
projects. Here’s my high level thoughts on the process we need to put into
place:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="mso-list: Ignore">1)<SPAN
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</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Someone
proposes an idea through a “Request for Comments” (RFC)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN
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</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
community comments on the ideas for the proposer.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN
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</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
proposer develops the idea into a real application/widget/thing the community
and PSC can see.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">4)<SPAN
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</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
PSC then votes whether this should go into the core code or not. Does it
follow coding guidelines, what ramifications does it have,
etc…<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1"><![if !supportLists]><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><SPAN
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</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><![endif]><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">The
code is committed if it accepted or it becomes a contributed user extension or a
code snippet<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
agree with Dean that I think a user meeting at FOSS4G would be ideal, but we
also need a moderator to help us come to some consensus on where the GeoMOOSE
project goes. I will be at FOSS4G as well.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Finally
I would welcome the Maine group in joining the GeoMOOSE project and please let
us know if you have any further questions or if we can do anything to
help. It always fun to see the project grow!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Brian<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Brian
Fischer,</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">
</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #595959; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">CFM
GIS Manager<BR><B>Houston Engineering, Inc.</B><BR>Phone: Direct:
763-493-6664 / W: 763.493.4522 / M: 763.229.2734<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> DEAN ANDERSON
[mailto:ANDERSON.DEAN@co.polk.or.us] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 25, 2011
10:23 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us;
geomoose-users@lists.sourceforge.net;
Christopher.Kroot@maine.gov<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Geomoose-users] GeoMoose
organization<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Bob <BR><BR>It
appears you are going to be at FOSSG, perhaps that would be a good place
to talk about this some evening. The Oregon Consortium would like to help
in this process along and we do have a limited amount of funds to contribute.
We identified some of the same issues as a priority for us at our last
Oregon consortium meeting. If folks would like to do this sooner perhaps
we could arrange something. Perhaps we could do a
project this summer and then review the results as a group this September. Our
project lists are documented on the Wiki in the community pages section.
<BR><BR>We have made great progress to date in Oregon with GeoMoose to date and
would like to see the program continue to mature. <BR><BR><BR>Dean Anderson
<BR>IT Director <BR>Polk County <BR><BR><BR><BR>>>> "Bob Basques"
02/25/11 8:04 AM >>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Christopher,</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">There
are a few commercial and non-profit vendors available now that have done quite a
bit of work in the setup, development and research related to GeoMoose and it's
continued development, and this type of support has progressed the project very
nicely to date. Having said that I'm also aware of the need to setup some
dedicated support functions along the lines of bug fixes, continued development
and research into additional capabilities as well as integration with other
Opensource as well as proprietary GIS services and systems. These GeoMoose
savvy groups also have some additional ideas and capabilities already in the
hopper related to improvements. They are also very interested in
hearing from people and groups such as yourself with respect to desired
capabilities of the package. I would be interested in your
specification (or capabilities) wish list for example, regardless, purely for
planning purposes.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">My
thoughts in recent months have been in setting up some sort of shepherding
arrangement with the core developer group, that can handle a supporting roll in
the GeoMoose development process. Such entities already exist,
either as commercial and/or non-profits, and are interested in this type of work
arrangement. To date there hasn't been a single large enough project or
group of smaller projects with similar enough interests to successfully sponsor
the type of support structure you are describing.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">I'm
prepared to attempt the arrangement of such a framework with the core
development group once a seeding sponsor or sponsors (such as yourself) have
been identified as being interested in pursuing such an arrangement.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Please
pass on your desired needs list and if you are interested in discussing further,
we can keep this thread going or go offline as well.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Thanks</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">bobb</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Bob
Basques</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">GIS
Systems Developer</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">City
of Saint Paul, MN.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">612.598.9210</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'"><A
href="http://gis.ci.stpaul.mn.us">http://gis.ci.stpaul.mn.us</A></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"><BR><BR>>>>
"Kroot, Christopher" <<A
href="mailto:Christopher.Kroot@maine.gov">Christopher.Kroot@maine.gov</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Hello all</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">My name is Christopher Kroot and
I am the enterprise GIS analyst for the State of Maine Office of GIS. We
are currently using mapserver to create WMS for imagery. We have
developed a simple front end application built with java script and php
with mapserver as the backend. We have determine that others have
progressed much further down this road then we have and are looking at
selecting a code base for our current and future development.</SPAN>
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">We are considering using
GeoMoose as the code base for our enterprise web mapping applications that
have a mapserver backend. Currently we have 5 stakeholder groups who
have provided us with the functionally requirements for their web mapping
needs. My review of the Clatsop County Web Maps </SPAN><U><A
href="http://maps.co.clatsop.or.us/applications/index.html"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">http://maps.co.clatsop.or.us/applications/index.html#</SPAN></A></U><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> is promising, as it
contains most of the base functionality required. We will be
investing a significant amount of resource in the coming years into the
environment we choose and want to select the best one to start
with.</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">What is the organizational
structure for GeoMoose? Are their funded positions for maintenance
and future development? </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">We are using the ESRI ArcServer
environment for web mapping that requires complex spatial analysis,
geoprocessing, other more complex functional requirements.</SPAN>
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Thank you for your assistance
and have a good day</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Christopher
Kroot</SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Enterprise GIS
Analyst</SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Maine Office of
GIS</SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">SHS
174</SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">264 Civic Center
Drive</SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Augusta ME
04333-0174</SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><A
href="mailto:christopher.kroot@maine.gov">christopher.kroot@maine.gov</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">207-592-0162</SPAN>
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