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Christopher,<br>
<br>
All of the requirements described in your documents fit within the
scope of GeoMOOSE. Some would require no changes to the Javascript
or PHP; others (like buffering results handling) would require
extensive coding (and that's ok with us!).<br>
<br>
To minimize your maintenance effort in the future, I would highly
recommend you plan on contributing your enhancements back into the
GeoMOOSE code base. As Brian Fischer detailed in a previous reply,
we are just beginning to work out a good process to move an
enhancement from concept to committed (and maintained) code, but
mature projects like Mapserver have a good example of a process that
works well.<br>
<br>
Would you consider doing an RFC for one of the concepts in your
documents to help us develop our process?<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Best Regards,
Brent Fraser</pre>
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On 3/1/2011 5:04 PM, Kroot, Christopher wrote:
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face="Courier New" size="3">Hello Bob and Dean</font></span></div>
<div><span lang="en-us"></span> </div>
<div><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
class="023094523-01032011">We have decided to move forward
with GeoMoose. I have attached 4 documents we discussed
via email, one is a spreadsheet listing the overall
functionality required ( This is still a work in
progress). The three ms word documents are requirements
for 3 of the projects we are working on. We expect to
begin our work within the next week. The tool that I have
not been able to find is for drawing a buffer, or creating
a buffer automatically and then having a selected set of
the features that are within or intersect the buffer
written to a table/array for use in display and reporting,
and to be able to do multiple selections adding to the
previously selected set.</span></font></span></div>
<div><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
class="023094523-01032011"></span></font></span> </div>
<div><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
class="023094523-01032011">Is it possible to get the
GeoMoose implementation code and associated documentation
that is being used in Clatsop county Oregon? Do you think
this is the best implementation to start from? This is the
base we would like to start from. It is one of the best
web apps we have found.</span></font></span></div>
<div><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
class="023094523-01032011"></span></font></span> </div>
<div><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
class="023094523-01032011">We are excited to learn more
about the GeoMoose product and are grateful for all the
work you and others have done to date. I hope that we are
able to contribute to the effort in a meaningful way.</span></font></span></div>
<div><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
class="023094523-01032011"></span></font></span> </div>
<div><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span
class="023094523-01032011">Have a good day</span></font></span></div>
<div><span lang="en-us"></span> </div>
<div><span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2">Christopher
Kroot</font></span> <br>
<span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2">Enterprise
GIS Analyst</font></span> <br>
<span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2">Maine
Office of GIS</font></span> <br>
<span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2">SHS 174</font></span>
<br>
<span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2">264 Civic
Center Drive</font></span> <br>
<span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2">Augusta ME
04333-0174</font></span> <br>
<span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:christopher.kroot@maine.gov">christopher.kroot@maine.gov</a></font></span>
<br>
<span lang="en-us"><font face="Courier New" size="2">207-592-0162</font></span>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Bob Basques
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us">mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 25, 2011 2:00 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> DEAN ANDERSON;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.sourceforge.net">geomoose-users@lists.sourceforge.net</a>; Kroot, Christopher<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geomoose-users] GeoMoose organization<br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font face="Comic
Sans MS" size="3">Dean,</font> </p>
<br>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font face="Comic
Sans MS" size="3">Oh, you meant "the" wiki. I haven't put
much time into it either myself.</font> </p>
<br>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font face="Comic
Sans MS" size="3">I see the community portal link from the
main page any everything. Good seeing this kind of thing
posted to the working site too.</font> </p>
<br>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font face="Comic
Sans MS" size="3">Qusetion, is there a way to mark which are
completed and which are still open for enhancements that a re
listed? Does this make more sense to add into TRAC in the
future.</font> </p>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font face="Comic
Sans MS" size="3">bobb</font> </p>
<br>
<br>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br>
<br>
>>> "DEAN ANDERSON" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ANDERSON.DEAN@co.polk.or.us"><ANDERSON.DEAN@co.polk.or.us></a>
wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Bob<br>
<br>
After the WIKI was setup we put our project stuff on
the GeoMoose Wiki Community Portal. We elected not to
separate ourselves from the GeoMoose site and have a
separate effort and/or site as we want our efforts to
mesh with the rest of the GeoMoose users as much as
possible. <br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Oregon_County_Consortium">http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Oregon_County_Consortium</a><br>
<br>
The WIKI contains that last two projects and outlines
planned projects for this spring/summer. We use the
WIKI to collect input, document requirements, and help
prioritize projects. This information is then used to
work with Houston to develop a project spec. As part
of the last project spec Houston will post
enhancements, etc.. on the WIKI so our members have an
easy way to download enhancements and others can see
them. My hope is that other groups will take advantage
of the community portal and put their project info
there.<br>
<br>
Our group is pretty loose and informal. We get
together about every 6+ weeks to...<br>
<br>
1. Review web sites and interfaces and help each other
to support our common Oregon customers (the public).<br>
2. Share results from existing projects.<br>
3. Share tips and tricks.<br>
4. Identify and prioritize projects for future
development.<br>
5. Get web based training when we need it.<br>
6. Share funds in getting projects done.<br>
<br>
We will have a couple of more members go live in the
coming month or so. My hope is that they will post a
link to their site on the gallery page. Also, now
that we can post documents to the WIKI we will put
some of our historical information there so I don't
have to e-mail it out. It is a cool process. I wish I
had more time to spend on it but as an IT guy I have
other commitments.<br>
<br>
I will be submitting a paper to FOSS4G to describe our
implementation process including use cases. We will
also have a session to discuss this at the
GIS-In-Action conference in Portland Oregon next
month. <br>
<br>
Dean<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> "Bob Basques" <bob.basques
ci.stpaul.mn.us="#DEFAULT"> 02/25/11 9:14 AM
>>><br>
</bob.basques></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Dean,</font> </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">I think having a
permanent or semi-permanent support structure in
place will only help and improve the implementors
experience which should translate to a better end
user experience. This has been an identified need
for quite a while within the group here. No lack of
support for setting up a more formalized support
structure, it's just been more fun to develop. The
trick is putting it together in a way that doesn't
impede the development process, while still
providing the resources needed for the process. I
think a sheperding approach would be the least
invasive to the process. It can also accommodate
representatives from different interested parties to
decide priorities as well future capabilities and
options for improvements.</font> </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Your idea of a test
project is a very good one. This could be used to
shake out the bugs, so to speak, related to getting
a group of interested folks together and defining
how support structure might be set up to greatest
effect. This would be a very good presentational
piece for Denver as well, even if the project
couldn't be completed before then. Just relating
the process I think would be of interest to others
in the community.</font> </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Do you have a direct
link to the consortium website?</font> </p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">bobb</font> </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br>
<br>
<br>
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>>> "DEAN ANDERSON"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ANDERSON.DEAN@co.polk.or.us"><ANDERSON.DEAN@co.polk.or.us></a> wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;">Bob<br>
<br>
It appears you are going to be at FOSSG,
perhaps that would be a good place to talk
about this some evening. The Oregon
Consortium would like to help in this
process along and we do have a limited
amount of funds to contribute. We
identified some of the same issues as a
priority for us at our last Oregon
consortium meeting. If folks would like to
do this sooner perhaps we could arrange
something. Perhaps we could do a project
this summer and then review the results as a
group this September. Our project lists are
documented on the Wiki in the community
pages section.<br>
<br>
We have made great progress to date in
Oregon with GeoMoose to date and would like
to see the program continue to mature.<br>
<br>
<br>
Dean Anderson<br>
IT Director<br>
Polk County<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
>>> "Bob Basques" <bob.basques
ci.stpaul.mn.us="#DEFAULT"> 02/25/11 8:04
AM >>><br>
</bob.basques></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Christopher,</font>
</p>
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0px;"><br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">There
are a few commercial and non-profit
vendors available now that have done quite
a bit of work in the setup, development
and research related to GeoMoose and it's
continued development, and this type of
support has progressed the project very
nicely to date. Having said that I'm also
aware of the need to setup some dedicated
support functions along the lines of bug
fixes, continued development and research
into additional capabilities as well as
integration with other Opensource as well
as proprietary GIS services and systems.
These GeoMoose savvy groups also have
some additional ideas and capabilities
already in the hopper related to
improvements. They are also very
interested in hearing from people and
groups such as yourself with respect to
desired capabilities of the package. I
would be interested in your specification
(or capabilities) wish list for example,
regardless, purely for planning purposes.</font>
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0px;"><br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">My
thoughts in recent months have been in
setting up some sort of shepherding
arrangement with the core developer group,
that can handle a supporting roll in the
GeoMoose development process. Such
entities already exist, either as
commercial and/or non-profits, and are
interested in this type of work
arrangement. To date there hasn't been a
single large enough project or group of
smaller projects with similar enough
interests to successfully sponsor the type
of support structure you are describing.</font>
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0px;"><br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">I'm
prepared to attempt the arrangement of
such a framework with the core development
group once a seeding sponsor or sponsors
(such as yourself) have been identified as
being interested in pursuing such an
arrangement.</font> </p>
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0px;"><br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Please
pass on your desired needs list and if you
are interested in discussing further, we
can keep this thread going or go offline
as well.</font> </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Thanks</font>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">Bob
Basques</font> </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">GIS
Systems Developer</font> </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">City
of Saint Paul, MN.</font> </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">612.598.9210</font>
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0px;"><br>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom:
0px;"><font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://gis.ci.stpaul.mn.us">http://gis.ci.stpaul.mn.us</a></font>
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<br>
>>> "Kroot, Christopher"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Christopher.Kroot@maine.gov"><Christopher.Kroot@maine.gov></a> wrote:<br>
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face="Arial">Hello all</font> </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Arial">My name is
Christopher Kroot and I am the
enterprise GIS analyst for the
State of Maine Office of GIS. We
are currently using mapserver to
create WMS for imagery. We have
developed a simple front end
application built with java
script and php with mapserver as
the backend. We have determine
that others have progressed much
further down this road then we
have and are looking at
selecting a code base for our
current and future development.</font>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Arial">We are considering
using GeoMoose as the code base
for our enterprise web mapping
applications that have a
mapserver backend. Currently we
have 5 stakeholder groups who
have provided us with the
functionally requirements for
their web mapping needs. My
review of the Clatsop County Web
Maps </font><u><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://maps.co.clatsop.or.us/applications/index.html#"><font
color="#0000ff" face="Arial">http://maps.co.clatsop.or.us/applications/index.html#</font></a></u><font
face="Arial"> is promising, as
it contains most of the base
functionality required. We will
be investing a significant
amount of resource in the coming
years into the environment we
choose and want to select the
best one to start with.</font> </p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Arial">What is the
organizational structure for
GeoMoose? Are their funded
positions for maintenance and
future development? </font></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Arial">We are using the
ESRI ArcServer environment for
web mapping that requires
complex spatial analysis,
geoprocessing, other more
complex functional requirements.</font>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Arial">Thank you for your
assistance and have a good day</font>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;"><font
face="Courier New" size="2">Christopher
Kroot</font><br>
<font face="Courier New" size="2">Enterprise
GIS Analyst</font><br>
<font face="Courier New" size="2">Maine
Office of GIS</font><br>
<font face="Courier New" size="2">SHS
174</font><br>
<font face="Courier New" size="2">264
Civic Center Drive</font><br>
<font face="Courier New" size="2">Augusta
ME 04333-0174</font><br>
<font face="Courier New" size="2"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:christopher.kroot@maine.gov">christopher.kroot@maine.gov</a></font><br>
<font face="Courier New" size="2">207-592-0162</font>
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