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<DIV>I will check with Krysta on how to make this work. It is using shape files (Crook County's is PostGIS). The easiest way to make this happen using Clatop's site as a starting point (if that meets your needs) is to do the following...</DIV>
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<DIV>1. Set up the GeoMOOSE demo site on IIS or Apache and make sure it works. Apache is simpler. </DIV>
<DIV>2. Sign a data license with Clatsop to temporarily use their data (Check with Krysta to see if this can happen. She has been out with the flue for the last couple of days). </DIV>
<DIV>3. We will create a zip file of their site with data (no photos) and place it on the FTP site. </DIV>
<DIV>4. You install Clatsop on your site (This will ensure you have a working copy). </DIV>
<DIV>5. Become familiar with MapServer map files so you can start setting up the cartography. </DIV>
<DIV>6. Read my notes that I used to customize Clatsop's site from what Houston setup for the Oregon Consortium. </DIV>
<DIV>7. Give Houston, Kyrsta or me a call for help. </DIV>
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<DIV>The buffer function is working fine for buffering around an individual parcel/taxlot or around a group. For any further customization you may want to contact Houston Engineering as they have done the Lion's share of customization for the Oregon Consortium.</DIV>
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<DIV>Let me know if this works for you. </DIV>
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<DIV>Dean Anderson </DIV>
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<DIV>PS. The reason I responded is that I worked with Krysta set the Clatsop sight up. </DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>>>> Brian Fischer <bfischer@houstoneng.com> 3/2/2011 6:50 AM >>><BR></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">I see the community portal link from the main page any everything. Good seeing this kind of thing posted to the working site too.</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Bob<BR><BR>After the WIKI was setup we put our project stuff on the GeoMoose Wiki Community Portal. We elected not to separate ourselves from the GeoMoose site and have a separate effort and/or site as we want our efforts to mesh with the rest of the GeoMoose users as much as possible. <BR><BR><A href="http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Oregon_County_Consortium">http://www.geomoose.org/wiki/index.php/Oregon_County_Consortium</A><BR><BR>The WIKI contains that last two projects and outlines planned projects for this spring/summer. We use the WIKI to collect input, document requirements, and help prioritize projects. This information is then used to work with Houston to develop a project spec. As part of the last project spec Houston will post enhancements, etc.. on the WIKI so our members have an easy way to download enhancements and others can see them. My hope is that other groups will take advantage of the community portal and put their project info there.<BR><BR>Our group is pretty loose and informal. We get together about every 6+ weeks to...<BR><BR>1. Review web sites and interfaces and help each other to support our common Oregon customers (the public).<BR>2. Share results from existing projects.<BR>3. Share tips and tricks.<BR>4. Identify and prioritize projects for future development.<BR>5. Get web based training when we need it.<BR>6. Share funds in getting projects done.<BR><BR>We will have a couple of more members go live in the coming month or so. My hope is that they will post a link to their site on the gallery page. Also, now that we can post documents to the WIKI we will put some of our historical information there so I don't have to e-mail it out. It is a cool process. I wish I had more time to spend on it but as an IT guy I have other commitments.<BR><BR>I will be submitting a paper to FOSS4G to describe our implementation process including use cases. We will also have a session to discuss this at the GIS-In-Action conference in Portland Oregon next month. <BR><BR>Dean<BR><BR><BR>>>> "Bob Basques" 02/25/11 9:14 AM >>><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Your idea of a test project is a very good one. This could be used to shake out the bugs, so to speak, related to getting a group of interested folks together and defining how support structure might be set up to greatest effect. This would be a very good presentational piece for Denver as well, even if the project couldn't be completed before then. Just relating the process I think would be of interest to others in the community.</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Bob<BR><BR>It appears you are going to be at FOSSG, perhaps that would be a good place to talk about this some evening. The Oregon Consortium would like to help in this process along and we do have a limited amount of funds to contribute. We identified some of the same issues as a priority for us at our last Oregon consortium meeting. If folks would like to do this sooner perhaps we could arrange something. Perhaps we could do a project this summer and then review the results as a group this September. Our project lists are documented on the Wiki in the community pages section.<BR><BR>We have made great progress to date in Oregon with GeoMoose to date and would like to see the program continue to mature.<BR><BR><BR>Dean Anderson<BR>IT Director<BR>Polk County<BR><BR><BR><BR>>>> "Bob Basques" 02/25/11 8:04 AM >>><BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">I'm prepared to attempt the arrangement of such a framework with the core development group once a seeding sponsor or sponsors (such as yourself) have been identified as being interested in pursuing such an arrangement.</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">My name is Christopher Kroot and I am the enterprise GIS analyst for the State of Maine Office of GIS. We are currently using mapserver to create WMS for imagery. We have developed a simple front end application built with java script and php with mapserver as the backend. We have determine that others have progressed much further down this road then we have and are looking at selecting a code base for our current and future development.</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">We are considering using GeoMoose as the code base for our enterprise web mapping applications that have a mapserver backend. Currently we have 5 stakeholder groups who have provided us with the functionally requirements for their web mapping needs. My review of the Clatsop County Web Maps </SPAN><U><A href="http://maps.co.clatsop.or.us/applications/index.html"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">http://maps.co.clatsop.or.us/applications/index.html#</SPAN></A></U><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> is promising, as it contains most of the base functionality required. We will be investing a significant amount of resource in the coming years into the environment we choose and want to select the best one to start with.</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">What is the organizational structure for GeoMoose? Are their funded positions for maintenance and future development? </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">We are using the ESRI ArcServer environment for web mapping that requires complex spatial analysis, geoprocessing, other more complex functional requirements.</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Thank you for your assistance and have a good day</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Christopher Kroot</SPAN><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Enterprise GIS Analyst</SPAN><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Maine Office of GIS</SPAN><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">SHS 174</SPAN><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">264 Civic Center Drive</SPAN><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Augusta ME 04333-0174</SPAN><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><A href="mailto:christopher.kroot@maine.gov">christopher.kroot@maine.gov</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">207-592-0162</SPAN> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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