<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">That would be great, and I applaud them for their recent progress, but the bigger problem is people would still have to upgrade to use it.<div><br><div><div>On Oct 20, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Bistrais, Bob wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">


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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">OK, I see that too. I think I can afford
to disable the fader on these layers, so we’ll get away with this one.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">The real solution would be for MS to give
us a browser that actually works as well as the others.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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color:windowtext"> Brent Fraser [mailto:bfraser@geoanalytic.com] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 20, 2011
10:42 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Bistrais, Bob<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Geomoose-users] Poor
quality WMS display in IE</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Bob,<br>
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&nbsp; Genius no, but I can be persistent.&nbsp; This is really just a
work-around.&nbsp; If your users expand the layer name in the Catalog by
clicking on it and use Fade/Unfade controls, the problem will appear again
(unless you disable the Fade controls).<br>
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<pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Best Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Brent Fraser<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
On 10/20/2011 8:34 AM, Bistrais, Bob wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><u1:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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</xml><![endif]-->Brent- you are a genius!!&nbsp; I removed the opacity setting
for the WMS in mapook.xml, and now it’s looking correct in IE8.<u1:p></u1:p></u1:smarttagtype></u1:smarttagtype></span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><u1:p>&nbsp;</u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Thanks!<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Bob<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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color:windowtext"> Brent Fraser [<a href="mailto:bfraser@geoanalytic.com">mailto:bfraser@geoanalytic.com</a>]
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 20, 2011
10:19 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Bistrais, Bob<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <a href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Geomoose-users] Poor
quality WMS display in IE</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<u1:p></u1:p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New
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                Roma"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:&quot;Times New\000D\000A                Roma&quot;">Bob,<br>
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&nbsp; Check your&nbsp; "opacity" setting for the WMS
&lt;map-source&gt; in your map book and set it to 100 (or remove it).&nbsp; As Michael
points out, IE has problems using both Alpha (a band in the image) and
transparency (a setting in the browser) for a PNG image.<br>
<br>
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<u1:p></u1:p><pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Best Regards,<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size="2" color="black" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Brent Fraser<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black" face="Times New
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On 10/19/2011 3:01 PM, Bistrais, Bob wrote: <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u4:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"><u4:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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</xml><![endif]-->I’m using a WMS service of our base data in a GeoMoose
application.&nbsp; The WMS is at MapServer 6.0.1 with a PNG output type.&nbsp;
My GeoMoose installation is the <st1:state u5:st="on"><st1:place u5:st="on"><st1:state u6:st="on"><st1:place u6:st="on"><st1:state w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Oregon</st1:place></st1:state></st1:place></st1:state></st1:place></st1:state>
variant 2.2 (MapServer 5.6?).<u4:p></u4:p></u4:smarttagtype></u4:smarttagtype></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u4:p>&nbsp;</u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">This service looks poor in the application when in
Internet Explorer (version 8), but looks great in Firefox, Chrome, and
Safari.&nbsp; The WMS also looks fine in ArcGIS, and also in IE with a simple
WMS GetMap request. <u4:p></u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u4:p>&nbsp;</u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Right now, the WMS service and my app are on our test
server, which you should be able to look at.&nbsp; I will give you the caveat
that the application is still being built and many controls are not yet
working, but if anyone wants to take a look, here are the URLs:<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u4:p>&nbsp;</u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">WMS Service:<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><a href="http://mapservertest.maine.gov/wms/mapserv.exe?map=c:/wms/basemapNew.map&amp;SERVICE=WMS&amp;" moz-do-not-send="true">http://mapservertest.maine.gov/wms/mapserv.exe?map=c:/wms/basemapNew.map&amp;SERVICE=WMS&amp;</a>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;-WMS version 1.1.1<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u4:p>&nbsp;</u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Here is the URL for the simple WMS request I tried,
and looks OK in IE:<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><a href="http://mapservertest.maine.gov/wms/mapserv.exe?map=c:/wms/basemapNew.map&amp;SERVICE=wms&amp;version=1.1.1&amp;request=GetMap&amp;layers=towns24_poly,Roads,Hydrography&amp;BBOX=437700,4907800,439030,4909100&amp;SRS=EPSG:26919&amp;FORMAT=image/png&amp;width=800&amp;height=600" moz-do-not-send="true">http://mapservertest.maine.gov/wms/mapserv.exe?map=c:/wms/basemapNew.map&amp;SERVICE=wms&amp;version=1.1.1&amp;request=GetMap&amp;layers=towns24_poly,Roads,Hydrography&amp;BBOX=437700,4907800,439030,4909100&amp;SRS=EPSG:26919&amp;FORMAT=image/png&amp;width=800&amp;height=600</a><u4:p></u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u4:p>&nbsp;</u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">GeoMoose Application:<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><a href="http://mapservergeotest.maine.gov/broadband/index.html" moz-do-not-send="true">http://mapservergeotest.maine.gov/broadband/index.html#</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
-Zoom in on a town and you will see poor graphic quality in IE, but looks good
in other browsers.<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u4:p>&nbsp;</u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u4:p>&nbsp;</u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">But what could be causing the poor display only with
IE?&nbsp; Could it be OpenLayers causing the problem?&nbsp; Other ideas?&nbsp;
Has anyone else had this experience?&nbsp; Is there some setting on IE that I
need to adjust?<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u4:p>&nbsp;</u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Thanks,<u4:p></u4:p></span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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