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 style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 23, 2011 4:45 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Geomoose-users] Printing wms layers<br> </font> <br>
<div id="yiv388459859">Yeah the point is that if you don't specify:<br><br>format=image/png<br><br>in the WMS URL, then the print script will form a url for you that includes the default value:<br><br>format-image/jpeg<br><br>and this is bad for your print job because JPEG doesn't support transparency.<br>
<br>The server is just delivering what the URL is asking it to...<br><br>Tanya<br><br><div class="yiv388459859gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Bob Basques <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us">Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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      <font face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">As far as the FORMAT= piece, I know that our WMS serves in 7 different response formats. &nbsp;Two different PNG formats.</font>    </div>
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      &gt;&gt;&gt; TC Haddad &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tchaddad@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tchaddad@gmail.com">tchaddad@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>    </div>
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              Bob,<br><br>does the actual WMS url have the "Format=" specified? even though you have set it to respond in PNG?<br><br>because if not, it looks like the print_util.php will force it to default to JPEG (line 112-ish)<br>
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                On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Jim Klassen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com">klassen.js@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>&nbsp;wrote:<br><br>              </div>
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                      The print.php script in GeoMoose uses GD (via PHP bindings) and is independent of MapServer. (Recall not all layers in a GeoMoose site have to come from MapServer.)<br>                    </div>
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                          On Nov 23, 2011, at 16:20, TC Haddad &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tchaddad@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:tchaddad@gmail.com">tchaddad@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>                        </div>
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                            dumb question:<br><br>Is GD really being used? I thought it was replaced (in Mapserver) in favor of AGG a while back...<br><br>Tanya<br><br>                          </div>
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                              On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jim Klassen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com">klassen.js@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>&nbsp;wrote:<br><br>                            </div>

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                                    Why it renders different is because in GeoMoose the browser does the image compositing. In the print utility there is no browser so the GD library needs to handle it. Why not print from the browser? Because not all browsers print the same and mans don't handle printing the composited images correctly. In any case high res prints (think plotter) would be out of the question.<br>
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                                        On Nov 23, 2011, at 14:27, "Bistrais, Bob" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Bob.Bistrais@maine.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:Bob.Bistrais@maine.gov">Bob.Bistrais@maine.gov</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>                                      </div>

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                                            <span style="color: navy; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2">One thing I don’t understand (and the answer is probably not so simple)- the map is looking exactly as I’d like in the application- why aren’t we grabbing that image and coping it to the output map file?</font></span>                                          </div>

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                                              <span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-weight: bold; font-family: Tahoma; "><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b></font></span><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:geomoose-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:geomoose-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>&nbsp;[mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:geomoose-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:geomoose-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] </span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>On Behalf Of </b></span><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">Brent Fraser<br style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>Sent:</b></span><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:33 AM<br style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>To:</b></span><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;Bistrais, Bob<br style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "></span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>Cc:</b></span><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>Subject:</b></span><span style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;Re: [Geomoose-users] Printing wms layers</span></font>                                            </div>

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I did a fix some time ago (http://geomoose.org/trac/ticket/108) regarding using the alpha channel in Print_util.php. This fix is in GeoMoose v2.4 so I'm confused...<br style="color: black; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">
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                                          <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold; font-family: Tahoma; "><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b></font></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2">&nbsp;Jim Klassen [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com">mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com</a>]<br style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</font></span><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>Sent:</b></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:43 AM<br style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>To:</b></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;Bistrais, Bob<br style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "></span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>Cc:</b></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;Bob Basques; <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org">&lt;geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>&gt;<br style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>Subject:</b></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;Re: [Geomoose-users] Printing wms layers</span></font>                                        </div>
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                                          On Nov 23, 2011, at 9:11, "Bistrais, Bob" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Bob.Bistrais@maine.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:Bob.Bistrais@maine.gov">Bob.Bistrais@maine.gov</a>&gt; wrote:</font></span>                                        </div>

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                                                <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold; font-family: Tahoma; "><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b></font></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2">&nbsp;Bob Basques [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us">mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us</a>]<br style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</font></span><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>Sent:</b></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:05 AM<br style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>To:</b></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>; Bistrais, Bob<br style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
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                                              <span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; "><font color="black" face="Comic Sans MS" size="3">What version of PNG, PNG8 PNG24, etc.</font></span>&nbsp;                                            </div>

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                                                        <span style="color: navy; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2">Yes, the WMS is outputting PNG. What would be recommended instead?</font></span>&nbsp;                                                      </div>

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                                                          <span style="font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold; font-family: Tahoma; "><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b></font></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><font face="Tahoma" size="2">&nbsp;Bob Basques [<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us">mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us</a>]<br style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</font></span><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>Sent:</b></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;Tuesday, November 22, 2011 4:54 PM<br style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>To:</b></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>; Bistrais, Bob<br style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">
</span><span style="font-weight:bold;"><b>Subject:</b></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">&nbsp;Re: [Geomoose-users] Printing wms layers</span></font>&nbsp;                                                        </div>

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