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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As far as I can tell the only layers in the demo where the ‘all’ parameter is used is the Yahoo/Google layers. All MapServer layers are explicitly called by name.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Dan Little [mailto:danlittle@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:39 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jim Klassen; Johan Forsman<br><b>Cc:</b> Bob Basques; geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geomoose-users] Changes to mapserver-type layer handling in GM 2.6?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>There is no fall-back to MapServer mode.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I really thought LAYERS=all was still working. In fact, I thought it's being used in the demo?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> Johan Forsman <<a href="mailto:Johan.Forsman@LA.GOV">Johan.Forsman@LA.GOV</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> Bob Basques <<a href="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us">Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us</a>>; "<a href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 16, 2012 8:41 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geomoose-users] Changes to mapserver-type layer handling in GM 2.6?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id=yiv893349410><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>Cool!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>The list is always a good place to start for problems/questions/feedback.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>At one point I thought there was a fallback to the old MapServer mode, but I'm not seeing it in the code now. Maybe I missed it. Dan?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'>On Apr 16, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Johan Forsman wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:3.0pt;margin-bottom:.75pt'><div><div style='margin-left:3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Success!</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The fastest method I could think of to test all layers was a bulk Find of “STATUS ON” and Replace with “GROUP ‘all’” which indeed allows the layers to display as intended using <layer name="all"/> in the mapbook.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think this topic needs to be documented front and center in the migration guide as it represents a fundamental change in the way the application works. I am sure there are many instances of legacy GM/MapServer installations that may require significant retooling to work with the new version, especially if they are not configured to serve WMS already.</span></a><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the tips and for a really great product.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am curious about Jim’s “in the default case” statement. Does this mean there is a case where the MapServer layers are *<b>not</b>* translated to WMS calls?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Incidentally, I may have discovered a few other items that may not be as intended. If they are not user error, where is appropriate to report them?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks again,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Johan.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:initial;border-top-color:rgb(181, 196, 223)'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=yiv893349410apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>Bob Basques <a href="mailto:[mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us]">[mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us]</a><span class=yiv893349410apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=yiv893349410apple-converted-space> </span>Monday, April 16, 2012 3:07 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=yiv893349410apple-converted-space> </span>Jim Klassen; Johan Forsman<br><b>Cc:</b><span class=yiv893349410apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=yiv893349410apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Geomoose-users] Changes to mapserver-type layer handling in GM 2.6?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div style='margin-left:3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>All (of you),</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>Just adding the desired layers to a GROUP called "all", should fix things (I think)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'>bobb</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:black'><br><br>>>> Jim Klassen <<a href="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com" target="_blank">klassen.js@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 style='margin-left:11.25pt;background:#F3F3F3'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div style='border:none;border-left:solid #050505 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal>It was intentional to migrate to using WMS over the MapServer specific calls in the default case as it eases interoperability with other servers and simplifies the code in many cases.<br><br>I don't think it was intentional to loose the layers=all trick (which was implemented inside MapServer not GeoMoose). Do any of the suggestions in the MapServer ticket referenced by Bob work as a workaround for you?<br><br>While 2.6 is near to release, one of the bigger tasks left is finishing up documentation. Thank you for testing and bring this to our attention.<br><br>On Apr 16, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Johan Forsman wrote:<br><br>> All:<br>><br>> I am slowly migrating a GM 2.2 site with some minor customizations to 2.6 and am wondering if what I am observing with my mapserver layers is by design or an error on my part.<br>><br>> On 2.6 it appears that all mapserver layers are requested as WMS which appears to result in<br>><br>> 1) any mapserver-type layer returns an error if the map file does not at least contain something like 'ows_enable_request' '*', and<br>><br>> 2) using the "all" parameter in the layer definition in the mapbook returns an error.<br>><br>> For example, in the 2.2 environment I have a "roads" source defined in the mapbook very simply as such:<br>><br>> <map-source name="roads_simple" type="mapserver" ><br>> <file>./sdwp/roads/webmaps_osm_lahwys.map</file><br>> <layer name="all"/><br>><br>> <layer title="Roads" src="roads_simple/all" status="off" legend="true" show-legend="true" fade="false" unfade="false"/><br>><br>> The forwarded URL request is:<br>><br>><span class=yiv893349410apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://oph-isb-gis01/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=/mapserver/apps/geomoose2/maps//sdwp/roads/webmaps_osm_lahwys.map&layers=all&mode=map&mapext=-10879743+3088767+-9475743+4200267&imgext=-10879743+3088767+-9475743+4200267&map_size=1404+1111&imgx=702&imgy=555.5&imgxy=1404+1111">http://oph-isb-gis01/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=/mapserver/apps/geomoose2/maps//sdwp/roads/webmaps_osm_lahwys.map&layers=all&mode=map&mapext=-10879743+3088767+-9475743+4200267&imgext=-10879743+3088767+-9475743+4200267&map_size=1404+1111&imgx=702&imgy=555.5&imgxy=1404+1111</a><br>><br>> The map file contains many scale-dependent line- and annotation layers and renders beautifully.<br>><br>> In the 2.6 environment the same mapbook definition and mapfile results in this call:<br>><br>><span class=yiv893349410apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://oph-isb-gis01/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe">http://oph-isb-gis01/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe</a>?<br>> MAP=/mapserver/apps/geomoose26/maps//sdwp/roads/webmaps_osm_lahwys.map&FORMAT=image/png&TRANSPARENT=TRUE&SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&STYLES=&LAYERS=all&SRS=EPSG%3A3857&BBOX=-10706687.23566,3214635.152984,-9648798.7643401,4074398.847016&WIDTH=865&HEIGHT=703<br>><br>> which returns:<br>><br>> <ServiceException code="LayerNotDefined"><br>> msWMSLoadGetMapParams(): WMS server error. Invalid layer(s) given in the LAYERS parameter.<br>> </ServiceException><br>><br>> I have unsuccessfully searched for documentation on this topic. Please advise.<br>><br>> Thanks!<br>> Johan Forsman<br>> Geologist<br>> Engineering Services<br>> LDHH-OPH-CEHS<br>> 225.342.7309<br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Geomoose-users mailing list<br>><span class=yiv893349410apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>><span class=yiv893349410apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-users" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-users</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Geomoose-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-users" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-users</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></td></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Geomoose-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org">Geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-users" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geomoose-users</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>