<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>Should be a nightly update. We recently upgraded the GeoMOOSE server from Debian 5.0 to 6.0 and we've experienced some "fall out."<br></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Johan Forsman <Johan.Forsman@LA.GOV><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "eadam@co.lincoln.or.us" <eadam@co.lincoln.or.us> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" <geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org>; Bob
Basques <Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:15 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Geomoose-users] Changes to mapserver-type layer handling in GM 2.6?<br> </font> </div> <br>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv560429274WordSection1"><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">I am not yet seeing your changes to the documentation at the end of those links. Perhaps it’s still a little while before changes are reflected?</span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";"> </span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">Thanks,</span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">Johan.</span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";"> </span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";"> Eli Adam [mailto:eadam@co.lincoln.or.us] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> Johan Forsman<br><b>Cc:</b> Bob Basques; Jim Klassen; geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geomoose-users] Changes to mapserver-type layer handling in GM 2.6?</span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"> </div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal">Johan,<br> </div><div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Johan Forsman <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Johan.Forsman@la.gov" target="_blank" href="mailto:Johan.Forsman@la.gov">Johan.Forsman@la.gov</a>> wrote:</div><div style="margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:3.0pt;margin-bottom:.75pt;"><div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Success!</span></div><div
class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">The fastest method I could think of to test all layers was a bulk Find of “STATUS ON” and Replace with “GROUP ‘all’” which indeed allows the layers to display as intended using <layer name="all"/> in the mapbook. </span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">I think this topic needs to be documented front and center in the migration guide as it represents a fundamental change in the way the application works. I am sure there are many instances of legacy GM/MapServer installations that may require significant </span></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><br>I have updated documentation here, http://geomoose.org/trunk/releases/2.6.html#release and here, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://geomoose.org/trunk/docs/faq.html#why-doesn-t-layers-all-work-anymore">http://geomoose.org/trunk/docs/faq.html#why-doesn-t-layers-all-work-anymore</a> (should show updates in a while) Please review it to confirm that it is sufficient. <br> </div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div style="margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:3.0pt;margin-bottom:.75pt;"><div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style=""><a rel="nofollow" name="136bf52db388b4bd_136bdd7e9cb5e500__MailE"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">retooling to work with the new version, especially if they are not configured to serve WMS already.</span></a></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Thanks for the tips and for a
really great product.</span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">I am curious about Jim’s “in the default case” statement. Does this mean there is a case where the MapServer layers are *<b>not</b>* translated to WMS calls?</span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Incidentally, I may have discovered a few other items that may not be as intended. If they are not user error, where is appropriate to report them?</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><br>The email list is always a great place to confirm things. Once you are certain, a Trac Ticket is usually the best route, http://trac.osgeo.org/geomoose/newticket<br> <br>Bests, Eli</div></div><blockquote
style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div style="margin-left:3.0pt;margin-top:3.0pt;margin-right:3.0pt;margin-bottom:.75pt;"><div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Thanks again,</span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Johan.</span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";"> Bob Basques [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us">Bob.Basques@ci.stpaul.mn.us</a>]
<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 16, 2012 3:07 PM<br><b>To:</b> Jim Klassen; Johan Forsman<br><b>Cc:</b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geomoose-users] Changes to mapserver-type layer handling in GM 2.6?</span></div></div></div><div><div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal" style=""> </div><div style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";">All (of you), </span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";"> </span></div><div style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";">Just adding the desired layers to a GROUP called "all", should fix things (I think) </span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans
MS";"> </span></div><div style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";">bobb </span></div><div class="yiv560429274MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";"> </span></div><div style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;"><span style="font-family:"Comic Sans MS";"><br><br>>>> Jim Klassen <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com">klassen.js@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></div><table class="yiv560429274MsoNormalTable" style="margin-left:11.25pt;background:#F3F3F3;" border="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;"><div style="border:none;border-left:solid #050505 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 5.0pt;"><div style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;">It was intentional to migrate to using WMS over the MapServer specific calls in the default case as it eases
interoperability with other servers and simplifies the code in many cases.<br><br>I don't think it was intentional to loose the layers=all trick (which was implemented inside MapServer not GeoMoose). Do any of the suggestions in the MapServer ticket referenced by Bob work as a workaround for you?<br><br>While 2.6 is near to release, one of the bigger tasks left is finishing up documentation. Thank you for testing and bring this to our attention.<br><br>On Apr 16, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Johan Forsman wrote:<br><br>> All:<br>><br>> I am slowly migrating a GM 2.2 site with some minor customizations to 2.6 and am wondering if what I am observing with my mapserver layers is by design or an error on my part.<br>><br>> On 2.6 it appears that all mapserver layers are requested as WMS which appears to result in<br>><br>> 1) any mapserver-type layer returns an error if the map file does not at least contain something like
'ows_enable_request' '*', and<br>><br>> 2) using the "all" parameter in the layer definition in the mapbook returns an error.<br>><br>> For example, in the 2.2 environment I have a "roads" source defined in the mapbook very simply as such:<br>><br>> <map-source name="roads_simple" type="mapserver" ><br>> <file>./sdwp/roads/webmaps_osm_lahwys.map</file><br>> <layer name="all"/><br>><br>> <layer title="Roads" src="roads_simple/all" status="off" legend="true" show-legend="true" fade="false" unfade="false"/><br>><br>> The forwarded URL request is:<br>><br>> http://oph-isb-gis01/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?map=/mapserver/apps/geomoose2/maps//sdwp/roads/webmaps_osm_lahwys.map&layers=all&mode=map&mapext=-10879743+3088767+-9475743+4200267&imgext=-10879743+3088767+-9475743+4200267&map_size=1404+1111&imgx=702&imgy=555.5&imgxy=1404+1111<br>><br>> The map file
contains many scale-dependent line- and annotation layers and renders beautifully.<br>><br>> In the 2.6 environment the same mapbook definition and mapfile results in this call:<br>><br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://oph-isb-gis01/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?">http://oph-isb-gis01/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe?</a><br>> MAP=/mapserver/apps/geomoose26/maps//sdwp/roads/webmaps_osm_lahwys.map&FORMAT=image/png&TRANSPARENT=TRUE&SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&STYLES=&LAYERS=all&SRS=EPSG%3A3857&BBOX=-10706687.23566,3214635.152984,-9648798.7643401,4074398.847016&WIDTH=865&HEIGHT=703<br>><br>> which returns:<br>><br>> <ServiceException code="LayerNotDefined"><br>> msWMSLoadGetMapParams(): WMS server error. Invalid layer(s) given in the LAYERS parameter.<br>> </ServiceException><br>><br>> I have unsuccessfully searched for documentation on this topic. Please
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