<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>More oddly, how do you tell users which tabs are service tabs and which aren't?</div><div><br></div><div>I would think correct behavior would be for the map to do what is selected in the toolbar.</div><div><br></div><div>Identify</div><div>Draw</div><div>Switch to Identify tab</div><div><br></div><div>Should show the previous identify results but not update them on click since you are still in draw mode.</div><div><div><br></div></div><div>I'm not saying this is (or isn't) the most useful behavior, just what I'd expect given the model of tools are the verbs.</div><div><br></div><div>On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:25, Brent Fraser <<a href="mailto:bfraser@geoanalytic.com">bfraser@geoanalytic.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dan,<br>
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Can't GeoMoose just stop the Add Polygon operation if another
command is selected? I don't like having to create a tool (or
tools?) for each editable layer. What am I missing?<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Best Regards,
Brent Fraser</pre>
On 12/4/2012 6:29 AM, Dan Little wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-size: 10pt; ">GeoMOOSE has a problem. It
tries to let users do a lot of things that, ultimately, will
cause them harm.</div>
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<div style="background-color: transparent; ">The Scenario</div>
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<div style="background-color: transparent; ">A user is going
along identifying things. Then they decide to add a <span class="yshortcuts cs4-visible" id="lw_1354627675_0" style="cursor: pointer; color: rgb(54, 99, 136);
border-bottom-width: 2px; border-bottom-style: dotted;
border-bottom-color: rgb(54, 99, 136); ">Polygon</span> to
the map. Then they want to identify things again, so they
simply return to the identify tab.</div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; "><br>
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<div style="background-color: transparent; ">The application
fundamentally breaks here. It will try to draw polygons and
identify things at the same time. This isn't a problem if
the user were to, once again, click the "Identify" tool from
the toolbar.</div>
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<div style="background-color: transparent; ">There are
variations on this tune but the underlaying question to it
all is, how should we be defining the users verb focus? And
how do we do it in a consistent predictable manner?</div>
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<div style="background-color: transparent; ">Some thoughts:</div>
<div style="background-color: transparent; ">1. When switching
to any tool, any "service tabs" close. That means, the
users' ability to add a polygon would close the "identify"
tab. Removing the users ability to go after the tab. This
has the negative consequence of not being able to refer to
your results for as long or allow the results to interact
with other tools.</div>
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<div style="background-color: transparent; "><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">2. The root
of these problems seem connected with some lack of
consistency with drawing. The vector layers are
handled separately from the layers that are used as "temp
drawing layers" for the services. We could move the
drawing and editing tools into a "tab" so that instead of
doing things like "Add Polygon", the user would click a
button like "Edit Vector Layer" or "Add Sketches" and it
would open a service-like tab that would give all of the
layer editing options. The may mean creating a tool for
each vector layer the user wants to have editable.</font></div>
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<div style="background-color: transparent; "><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Anyone with
other thoughts? Solutions? Patches?</font></div>
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<div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">PS:
I'm sorry if this shows up as a duplicate, I sent this
email yesterday afternoon and it didn't appear to show up
on the list.</font></div>
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