<div dir="ltr">Agreed with Jim. Having GeoMoose re-project "outgoing "vector data is useful. All things being equal, all of our GeoMoose setups tend to be either UTM15N (most common) or Web Mercator (less common but becoming more useful for us) with MapServer re-projecting source data as needed.<div>
<br></div><div>As Jim said, if you want MapServer to work with data that is in county coordinates you'll need to put the correct parameters in the mapfile PROJECTION object or add new lines to the epsg file (/usr/share/proj/epsg on most Linux systems, not sure where it is on Windoze). If you're working with data in PostGIS you'll also need to fiddle with the spatial_ref_sys table.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If you don't want to monkey around with everything described in the previous paragraph you might just create UTM copies of any county sourced data. A bit more data to manage, but less MapServer configuration.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Jim's other point about Web Mercator's fixed zoom levels and printing is relevant. For our purposes, most of the printing folks don't required a even scale. If that is a requirement for you, then it's definitively something to consider<br>
</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Jim Klassen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:klassen.js@gmail.com" target="_blank">klassen.js@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">One projection in GeoMoose is a good thing. MapServer is much better at handling any reprojection needs. The exception to that is GeoMoose can do a fairly good job re-projecting vector points which is useful to send a search query to an outside service that doesn't understand your projection.<div>
<br><div><div>On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Paul Wickman wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Yes, it is possible. Just like other GIS/web mapping tools, the map display itself is set to be in a certain projection. Any source data (in this case WMS imagery) that is not in that coordinate system must be re-projected. In the GeoMoose world this typically happens in one of two places; either in GeoMoose itself (where the web browser does the re-projection) or in MapServer. <div>
<br></div><div>In the later case, MapServer essentially acts as a WMS proxy. You would configure GeoMoose to use MapServer as the WMS source. MapServer in turn is configured with a layer, which pulls from the "real" WMS server. MapServer re-projects that data and punts it back in the native projection that GeoMoose expects.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Typically, if I want to pull in layers that are in multiple different projects I let MapServer do the heavy lifting in this manner. I have played around with letting GeoMoose deal with multiple projections, but frankly I find it to be slower and just generally a bit more troublesome to configure and debug. Others on the list may have a different experience.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Hope that clears things up rather than making them murkier ;)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Dennis Tumberg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dtumberg@invergroveheights.org" target="_blank">dtumberg@invergroveheights.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Paul,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">That worked! Thanks for your help with this. So, is it possible to use WMS layers that are in a different coordinate system, or is that not possible in GeoMOOSE? I was looking at adding aerials that were originally in Dakota County Coordinates and in UTM coordinates. Before I get to far into this I should find out if that is even possible or not.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=""><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Paul Wickman [mailto:<a href="mailto:paul@flatrockgeo.com" target="_blank">paul@flatrockgeo.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 03, 2013 3:20 PM</span></p><div class="im"><br><b>To:</b> Dennis Tumberg<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geomoose-users] WMS not working<u></u><u></u></div>
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</div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="">Ah, ok. I expect that's the problem. The 3857 projection is for "Web Mercator", aka "Google Projection". The MnGeo WMS service that you're trying to hit only provides imagery in UTM15N (26915).<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="">However, there is a solution! Try using the following. The URL specified here serves the same imagery in the project that you need.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class=""><map-source name="fsa2010" type="wms" projection='EPSG:3857'><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="">
<url><a href="http://geoint.lmic.state.mn.us/cgi-bin/wmsll" target="_blank">http://geoint.lmic.state.mn.us/cgi-bin/wmsll</a>?</url><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=""> <layer name="fsa2010" /><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div class="im"><div><p class=""> <param name="TRANSPARENT" value="true"/><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class=""> <param name="FORMAT" value="image/jpeg"/><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class=""></map-source><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class=""><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><div><p class="" style="margin-bottom:12pt">
<u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="">On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Dennis Tumberg <<a href="mailto:dtumberg@invergroveheights.org" target="_blank">dtumberg@invergroveheights.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">It is not, it is set to:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><param name="projection">EPSG:3857</param></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=""><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Paul Wickman [mailto:<a href="mailto:paul@flatrockgeo.com" target="_blank">paul@flatrockgeo.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 03, 2013 3:07 PM</span><u></u><u></u></p><div class="im"><div><div><p class=""><br><b>To:</b> Dennis Tumberg<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geomoose-users] WMS not working<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="">Is your mapbook.xml set to the same projection (26915)?<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=""><param name="projection">EPSG:26915</param><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<div><p class="" style="margin-bottom:12pt"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="">On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Dennis Tumberg <<a href="mailto:dtumberg@invergroveheights.org" target="_blank">dtumberg@invergroveheights.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Sorry, I had copied that to post it, but switched it to “on” before I posted, nothing worked. I deleted status all together, it is still not working.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=""><b><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Bodoni MT',serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dennis Tumberg</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Bodoni MT',serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">GIS Technician</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Bodoni MT',serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">City of Inver Grove Heights</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:'Bodoni MT',serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Phone - <a href="tel:651.554.3446" target="_blank">651.554.3446</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in">
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<b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> Paul Wickman [mailto:<a href="mailto:paul@flatrockgeo.com" target="_blank">paul@flatrockgeo.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 03, 2013 2:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> Dennis Tumberg<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">geomoose-users@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Geomoose-users] WMS not working</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="">Dennis,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="">At first glance, try removing <span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">the '</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> status="off" ' setting on the <layer> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div></div><div><p class="" style="margin-bottom:12pt"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="">On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Dennis Tumberg <<a href="mailto:dtumberg@invergroveheights.org" target="_blank">dtumberg@invergroveheights.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><div><p class="">I have been working with GeoMOOSE just a short time and am having issues with getting a WMS layer to display.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="">I have tried adding the WMS directly with and without a MAP file.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="">Here is what I have for the map source and layer in catalog:<u></u><u></u></p><p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p><p class=""><map-source name="fsa2010" type="wms" projection='EPSG:26915'><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=""> <url><a href="http://geoint.lmic.state.mn.us/cgi-bin/wms" target="_blank">http://geoint.lmic.state.mn.us/cgi-bin/wms</a>?</url><u></u><u></u></p><p class=""> <layer name="fsa2010" status="off"/><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=""> <param name="TRANSPARENT" value="true"/><u></u><u></u></p><p class=""> <param name="FORMAT" value="image/png"/><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=""></map-source><u></u><u></u></p><p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p><p class=""><layer title="2010 FSA" src="fsa2010/fsa2010" status="off" legend="false" fade="false" unfade="false"/><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="">What am I doing wrong, I can’t seem to find any of the solutions with online searches.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="">
Thanks,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=""> <u></u><u></u></p><p class=""><b><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:'Bodoni MT',serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dennis Tumberg</span></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class=""><span style="font-family:'Bodoni MT',serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">GIS Technician</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=""><span style="font-family:'Bodoni MT',serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">City of Inver Grove Heights</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=""><span style="font-family:'Bodoni MT',serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Phone - <a href="tel:651.554.3446" target="_blank">651.554.3446</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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