> > What are you going to do about the GRASS archive for us outer Internet
> > (ie, non-MILNET) users when MILNET disallows "outside-in" connections, 
> > ie, from what I understand, I (being on SURANET) will no longer be able
> > to ftp moon.  If you are unaware of these upcoming changes, I would 
> > suggest you inquire with your network manager.  I may too be mistaken
> > on just what all is changing so correction would be most welcome.  I
> > will not like to see ftp access to moon from non-MILNET sites!  :-(
> 
> would someone care to elaborate on this? I have been able to connect to the 
> moon without problems (apart from the old dir/ls one :-( ) for the last two
> years - from Germany (informatik.uni-kiel.de). Is this going to change?
> When? Why? Does anyone know anything about this at all?
> 
> Confused,
  
There is currently no problem in terms of connecting to the GRASS ftp
site.  That's not the issue; it's the future of FTP connections to the
site, which falls under MILNET (moon.cecer.ARMY.MIL) and how we are
affected from the non .mil domains (domestic and overseas).

I was forwarded this a few days ago with regards to this issue.  I have
seen no further talk about this from the Grass groups; I too would like
to know more about the future of FTP to the moon from non-MILNET sites.  
Does the OGI plan on creating a non-MILNET ftp address for the moon?  
Thanks in advance!

>Path: raider!knuth.mtsu.edu!lists.psi.com!postman
>From: "Bob Stringfield, ODCSPER" <aeaga-p15@heidelberg-emh17.army.mil>
>Subject: Re:  DISA Announces Plans to Separate DDN from the InterNet
>Reply-To: "Bob Stringfield, ODCSPER" <aeaga-p15@heidelberg-emh17.army.mil>
>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1993 10:30:03 GMT
>Message-ID: <93Nov18.103017gmt.3199@odcsper.heidelberg-emh17.army.mil>
>Lines: 60
>Sender: "Bob Stringfield, ODCSPER" <aeaga-p15@heidelberg-emh17.army.mil>

>p.s.  pardon the cross-posting but due to the subject matter
>thought it pertinent....

>----- Forwarded message # 1:
>Subject:  DISA ANNOUNCES PLAN TO SEPARATE DDN FROM THE INTERNET

>This is being posted to multiple lists. Please excuse
> the duplication. Note that the address for comments is:
> macnabr@cc.ims.disa.mil

>DISA to Establish Mail Relay Between DoD and the Internet

>A Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) representative,
>Mr. Robert MacNab, announced at the Defense Technical
>Information Center's Annual Users Training Conference that
>DISA is planning to move forward with the separation of the
>DDN from the Internet early in 1994.  This separation will be
>accomplished by the installation of a mail-relay between the
>DDN and the Internet.  Exchange of electronic mail between DoD
>and Internet users will be allowed.  Some accommodation will
>be required by users to communicate through the new mail-
>relay.  For example:

>          Currently:                      jones@abc.disa.mil
>                                          jsmith@def.gsfc.nasa.gov

>          After Mail-Gateway:
>                      DoD Users:           jones@abc.disa.mil
>                      Internet Users:      jones%abc.disa.mil@relay.mil
>                      DoD Users:           smith%def.gsfc.nasa.gov@relay.int
>                      Internet Users:      smith@def.gsfc.nasa.gov

> Electronic mail senders must know which network the receiver
> is on, in order to direct mail through the mail-relay.

> Network connections (for Telnet, FTP, etc.) from DoD sites into
> Internet resources will continue to be available to DoD users.
> However, Internet users will not be allowed to make direct
> network connections to DoD host computers.

> Mr. MacNab solicited comments from the user community on
> how these changes would effect them.  His phone number is
> 703-285-5143 or email address is macnabr@cc.ims.disa.mil.

> Information Prepared by:       Carlynn Thompson
>                               Defense Technical Information Center
>                               Directorate of Research, Development
>                                 and Acquisition Information Support
>                               Cameron Station
>                               Alexandria, VA  22304-6145
>                                Phone:  703-274-3639
>                                Fax:    703-617-7087
>                                Email:  cthomps@dgis.dtic.dla.mil
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