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Hi,<br>
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I fully support your opinion. I am a developer but also a user and I understand
very well how important <br>
is a stable and reliable system in critical projects. As a developer I am
a bit uncertain if I should work on modules<br>
for grass5.1 or grass5.0 because some of grass5.0 modules have been already
transfered to grass5.1. <br>
If I want to make some improvements to grass modules should I work on grass5.0
or grass5.1 modules? As grass5.1 is <br>
highly experimental and in some terms inreliable, I risk, as a user, that
I will have to switch frequently between <br>
grass5.0 and grass5.1. Moreover, a parallel development of identical modules
may cause future problems <br>
and extra work to merge all updates in grass5.2. <br>
It is clear that at some point in the future all development works for grass5.0
must be stopped and all effort must be directed<br>
to transition to grass5.2 (or grass5.1 stable). Otherwise we risk wasting
time and effort of many people.<br>
Perhaps a core team of grass5.1 developers should keep grass5.1 as minimal
as possible in terms of number <br>
of modules transferred from grass5.0 unless development of grass5.0 is stopped.<br>
<br>
Jaro<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cheg01@attbi.com">cheg01@attbi.com</a> wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">This may be a philosophic issue rather than a software issue. When I look
at the Grass website I see the words "stable release" and "supported"
associated with 5.0.0 and the words "highly experimental" and "use at you
own risk" associated with 5.1.x. That is not going to encourage a quick
transistion to the next version by the average user. My guess is that many
users are more interested in having a stable GIS even if the functions are
limited than having ideal functionality with unknown stability. I
absolutely support all efforts to improve future versions of Grass, but I
think it is a bit early to abandon efforts to clean up 5.0.0, even in areas
where it is weak, only 5 months after it hit the streets as an official
release. This is just my opinion. I am not a programmer, just an interested
user. I have a hard enough time understanding the geographic part without
using experimental software.
BTW: all of the developers have done a magnificent job making GRASS what it
is today. Thanks.
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From: "John Gillette" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:JGillette@rfmd.com"><JGillette@rfmd.com></a>
To: "Radim Blazek" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:blazek@itc.it"><blazek@itc.it></a>; "Helena Mitasova"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hmitaso@unity.ncsu.edu"><hmitaso@unity.ncsu.edu></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cheg01@attbi.com"><cheg01@attbi.com></a>
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:grass5@grass.itc.it"><grass5@grass.itc.it></a>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: [GRASS5] v.digit color name mismatch
This is good information to know. I have been looking at vector
processing modules also and have wondered if I was "wasting"
my time by not looking at 5.1. My concern is that what I do
for 5.0 will change with 5.1. These comments make it clear to me
that I need to compile 5.1 and start looking at what's different.
In particular, I have been looking in v.digit and v.build at
topology building and checking routines to see how lower level
routines can be used to build higher level functions.
I'd also like to document what I figure out. The programming
manual has little information at this level of internals.
It would be good if we can coordinate our work. Or at least share
what areas we are working in. (I'm thinking specifically
of the vector area.)
John
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<pre wrap="">-----Original Message-----
From: Helena Mitasova [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:hmitaso@unity.ncsu.edu">mailto:hmitaso@unity.ncsu.edu</a>]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:16 AM
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cheg01@attbi.com">cheg01@attbi.com</a>
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:grass5@grass.itc.it">grass5@grass.itc.it</a>
Subject: Re: [GRASS5] v.digit color name mismatch
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cheg01@attbi.com">cheg01@attbi.com</a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">----- Original Message -----
From: "Radim Blazek" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:blazek@itc.it"><blazek@itc.it></a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cheg01@attbi.com"><cheg01@attbi.com></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:grass5@grass.itc.it"><grass5@grass.itc.it></a>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [GRASS5] v.digit color name mismatch
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<pre wrap="">Hi Chris,
I see that you are working on v.digit, I would like to only note
that work on v.digit in 5.1 was also started:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mpa.itc.it/radim/g51/v.digit3.png">http://mpa.itc.it/radim/g51/v.digit3.png</a>
Radim
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<pre wrap="">I suspect that 5.0 will continue to have a large user base
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<pre wrap="">for some years
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<pre wrap="">to come. Is there an expeced release date for 5.1?
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<pre wrap="">Chris, if you are doing anything with vector modules I are greatly
encourage you to look at 5.1
and coordinate your work with Radim. The vector capabilities
in 5.0 are
not adequate
and we all need to work on getting 5.0 merged with 5.1 as soon as
possible so that we can have a working version
of GRASS5.1 with everything in it - I expect that people will
switch to
GRASS5.1 as soon as it becomes
usable because of its vector and database support, so I would not put
much effort in fixing 5.0 vector stuff.
This is just my view, others may see it differently.
Helena
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