<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV>William's comments explain me what is going on a IBook, grass doesn't work and the terminal keeps giving a message about location not being initialized (I don't remember the exact message now). This weird behavior happens only in the main user. It seems that somehow </DIV><DIV>Sad to hear that NVIZ doesn't work at all in MacIntel I want to buy a MacBookPro.</DIV><DIV>In some of my several attempts to compile grass, NVIZ was working when started from X11 terminal, but after get rid of the problems the errors messages when compiling nviz doesn't work.</DIV><DIV>Agustin</DIV><DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV><DIV>On Jul 28, 2006, at 5:06 PM, Michael Barton wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV>William,</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>I'll wait for your next beta to try it. I and many others would like to exit</DIV><DIV>both gism and grass together, but this is more complicated than it seems. No</DIV><DIV>one has figured it out yet. The easiest way would be to start gism then</DIV><DIV>grass, rather than grass then gism. But this is another issue.</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Normally exiting grass kills wish, and hence gism. But gism could keep</DIV><DIV>running if started within grass (it needs grass environmental variables to</DIV><DIV>get going).</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV>Hm, tried it again with latest snapshot. GRASS.app starts GRASS in Terminal, and starts GUI in X11 Wish. Quit GRASS in Terminal and GUI stays running in X11 Wish. Any attempt to do stuff in GUI then gives Location not set error.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I looked at process ownership - Wish starts out with the GRASS shell as the parent. After quitting GRASS with the Wish GUI still running, Wish now has launchd (process 1) as the parent. Happens with both X11 Wish and Aqua Wish. GRASS doesn't seem to be killing Wish, just letting it go on with its life. hehe, some parenting and animal behaviours come to mind...</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV></DIV><DIV>In Lorenzo's app, I've successfully started gism in TclTk aqua and used the</DIV><DIV>bash terminal. It all works without x11--except of course v.digit, nviz, and</DIV><DIV>a couple other modules.</DIV><DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><DIV>I've found an odd problem. First, with X11 Wish (don't set GRASS_WISH or GRASS_TCLSH in .bash_profile), start GRASS.app. GUI starts in X11. Select mapset and start NVIZ from GUI. All OK - NVIZ works normally and starts directly in NVIZ with no rasters or vectors selected. Quit everything.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Change GRASS_WISH and GRASS_TCLSH to Aqua version in /usr/local/bin. Start GRASS.app, GUI opens in Aqua Wish. Select mapset and start NVIZ. NVIZ GUI startup dialog shows to select initial data. Select something and Run. NVIZ progress shows, then disappears. No display. NVIZ has a crashlog with something completely different from any previous crashes - it's crashing in G__open_cell_old.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>BUT, while still in the Aqua Wish GUI, if I start NVIZ from the Terminal, it works.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So, now NVIZ doesn't work from the Aqua GUI. But otherwise works normally. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Haven't tried Aqua NVIZ again, but thanks to Amilcar Challu, I've verified that NVIZ Aqua doesn't work on Intel Macs at all - it's not the graphics card difference.</DIV><BR><DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">-----</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">William Kyngesburye <<A href="mailto:kyngchaos@kyngchaos.com">kyngchaos@kyngchaos.com</A>></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><A href="http://www.kyngchaos.com">http://www.kyngchaos.com</A>/</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">"Those people who most want to rule people are, ipso-facto, those least suited to do it."</FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">- A rule of the universe, from the HitchHiker's Guide to the Galaxy</FONT></DIV> </DIV><BR><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">grass-dev mailing list</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:grass-dev@grass.itc.it">grass-dev@grass.itc.it</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev">http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grass-dev</A></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>