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<div class="">I just started from scratch and compiled GRASS under Anaconda, created an app, and created a dmg. It runs with a double click. This is great!! Tonight, I will test on my laptop at home with SIP turned on. Fingers crossed.</div>
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<div class="">I've been working off and on for the past several month to find a new way to compile and distribute GRASS for Mac with all dependencies created outside the Mac system folders and bundled with it. The goal is to eliminate the SIP problem and the
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<div class="">On Jan 14, 2018, at 1:00 PM, <a href="mailto:grass-user-request@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">
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<span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)" class=""><b class="">From:<span class="m_-2954089427317851649m_3197864454461300565Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif" class="">Ken
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<span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)" class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="m_-2954089427317851649m_3197864454461300565Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,sans-serif" class=""><b class="">Re:
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 glad to hear you got GRASS working on OS X w/ MacPorts. That is the system I use too. I recently switched from HomeBrew. I got GRASS working with fink too, but prefer MacPorts, although there are some MacPort-specific issues if you want to use the temporal
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