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Yes pdal is a good possibility. But we neither yet have pdal replacements for the lidar tools nor pdal in anaconda. I don't know which is the better near term solution for lidar and which would be easier to to implement.
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<div class="">So here is an email chain with the conda-forge maintainers of the LAStools package about liblas in Anaconda which is not liblas, but actually laslib misnamed. This is why there is no liblas-config. Since liblas.dylib is installed with the lastools
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<div class="">Since that's the case, it doesn't seem that just liblas-config would solve it.
<span class="">Daniel Clewley</span> says "LASlib isn't a drop in replacement for libLAS (different function names for one thing) you'd have to modify the GRASS code if you wanted to use LASlib." Perhaps simpler than changing it to PDAL, but I'm not sure if
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<div class="">The upshot is that LAStools (and laslib, misnamed as liblas) can be installed through Anaconda, but not the packages we know as libLAS. Also, it seems like libLAS is no longer maintained and superseded by LASlib and related tools.</div>
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<div class="">From what I understood replacement for libLAS is PDAL, but definitively not a drop-in one. I was not able to dedicate any time to it lately except for accepting patch from felixg few days ago which makes v.in.pdal work with current PDAL. Also
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<div class="">I have indeed seen both the open source libLAS code and the LAStools site. The thing is that the Anaconda package installs liblas.dylib into ../lib as well as command line tools in ../bin with the same names as the tools built with the libLAS
code. A couple years ago, a colleague on the GRASS project looked into the (then new) LAStools distribution and thought that it could be a drop in replacement for libLAS code. So I was hoping to try this with the Anaconda build. But we need a liblas-config
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<p class="">This is the feedstock for <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_LAStools_LAStools&d=DwMFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=lk-7X7CEOMDN8GaGVhiDsuO6gEp1wbG6nfT1XEEEtR0&m=_O4k1Vw2r12rLzx299WafFcaDaH01hzHGCoCuf94J0I&s=ldj8Sw8X5ftlAivmAsG7tmePCgMcO2HxM6XH99LrTfU&e=" target="_blank" class="">LAStools</a> and
LASlib not <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_libLAS_libLAS&d=DwMFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=lk-7X7CEOMDN8GaGVhiDsuO6gEp1wbG6nfT1XEEEtR0&m=_O4k1Vw2r12rLzx299WafFcaDaH01hzHGCoCuf94J0I&s=GuVlnoktk-csitrgckBePx4WJ1v_ZYXiIl8B51Ydttk&e=" target="_blank" class="">libLAS</a> which
I believe is the library GRASS can be compiled against. The libLAS website has a page explaining the relationship between the two: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.liblas.org_lastools.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=lk-7X7CEOMDN8GaGVhiDsuO6gEp1wbG6nfT1XEEEtR0&m=_O4k1Vw2r12rLzx299WafFcaDaH01hzHGCoCuf94J0I&s=TJQ1eSBXpa8L3IrseTebZgyoHHFaNnOxyqkHZbdxQ88&e=" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://www.liblas.org/la<wbr class="">stools.html</a>.
The two libraries provide similar functionality but aren't compatible.</p>
<p class="">From the libLAS website "As of 2014, libLAS has been almost entirely superceded by Martin Isenburg‘s LASlib library."</p>
<p class="">More specifically this feedstock builds a fork of LAStools (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_gillins_LAStools_&d=DwMFaQ&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=lk-7X7CEOMDN8GaGVhiDsuO6gEp1wbG6nfT1XEEEtR0&m=_O4k1Vw2r12rLzx299WafFcaDaH01hzHGCoCuf94J0I&s=wQwQ2hTaHMK_RPNZcXN3rVYXsqw6UAnnYFN0kv4AuD4&e=" target="_blank" class="">https://github.com/gillins/LA<wbr class="">Stools/</a>)
which adds CMake build scrips. The standard LAStools doesn't provide a <code class="">liblas-config</code> file, we could add one to the fork this is being build against but I think this would only make things between the two libraries more confusing.</p>
<p class="">I'm going to mark this as closed but if I am incorrect and it is LASlib you need please reopen for further discussion.</p>
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