<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>Some comments inline:<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:37 PM Huidae Cho <<a href="mailto:grass4u@gmail.com">grass4u@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 5:40 AM Moritz Lennert <<a href="mailto:mlennert@club.worldonline.be" target="_blank">mlennert@club.worldonline.be</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Thanks, Vero, for your feedback (and Vaclav for the direct change) !<br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I took liberty to add some links (what "PSC" and "PR" is may be not that obvious...).<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Here are some comments/replies.<br>
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Am 15.11.2021 21:35 schrieb Veronica Andreo:<br>
> This is great Moritz! Thanks for taking the lead on this and drafting<br>
> the call!<br></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks a lot!</div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> Here are my comments/questions:<br>
> - _"be eligible to work in the country in which they reside" --><br>
> _maybe this is related to them having a tax number or bank account, no<br>
> idea.<br>
<br>
I think it is more linked to the fact that GSoC pays for a student job, <br>
no ? Or is it also considered a grant ?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>GSoC is considered an independent (contract?) job according to their FAQ [1]?</div><div><br></div><div> [1] <a href="https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq#is_gsoc_considered_an_internship_a_job_or_any_form_of_employment" target="_blank">https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/faq#is_gsoc_considered_an_internship_a_job_or_any_form_of_employment</a></div><div><br></div><div>Since our grants are also "service"-based payments, probably, we should use the same category for tax purposes?</div><div><br></div><div>Another idea is to use the money for "competitions" where students submit their "completed" work and we pick a couple of their projects for monetary rewards. Not sure about tax implications in this case. It's more of a prize than a pay.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Grant vs award vs job probably also depends on where the bank account resides fiscally.</div><div>Now that we are on <a href="https://opencollective.com/grass">https://opencollective.com/grass</a> this may matter/help.<br></div><div> </div><div>[...]<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div><div>I think we need different requirements for different categories. Software development needs core developers or at least add-on devs depending on the repository, I think.</div><div>* Software development</div><div>* Improvement of the manual documentation</div><div>* Educational resources including workshop manuals, user guides, Jupyter notebooks</div><div>* etc.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'd agree here.<br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div>[...]<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> - In the how to apply section: email with proof of eligibility should<br>
> be sent to some of us privately I think for data privacy reasons (?).<br>
<br>
Yes, that's why I put XYZ as the address. Maybe we can create an <br>
@<a href="http://osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer" id="gmail-m_9214523757319808178tmpid_0045" target="_blank">osgeo.org</a> address for this ?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sounds good.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I can do that (it would be an email reflector to XYZ then:</div><div>grass-[grants|awards]@<a href="http://osgeo.org">osgeo.org</a> --> someone@from.our.team.something<br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> Would be nice to ask them to introduce themselves to the community<br>
> too, no? Probably once accepted.<br>
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Yes, but not sure this needs to be in the grant procedure description.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think it's a good idea to promote this grant program. It can be considered a letter of interest. Maybe emails with a prefix like "[STUDENT GRANTS]".<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sounds good.<br></div><div> </div><div>[...]<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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> - Final report: the report in the wiki seems fine to me, could also be<br>
> the trac wiki where all the GSoC reports live too.<br>
<br>
I agree, but this raises the more fundamental question whether in the <br>
long run we want to continue with two wikis, especially with the trac <br>
wiki, knowing that we do not use trac for anything else anymore.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I agree. We should somehow consolidate the two wikis.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I also agree.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Markus <br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> El lun, 15 nov 2021 a las 13:07, Moritz Lennert<br>
> (<<a href="mailto:mlennert@club.worldonline.be" id="gmail-m_9214523757319808178tmpid_1160" target="_blank">mlennert@club.worldonline.be</a>>) escribió:<br>
> <br>
>> Dear all,<br>
>> <br>
>> Following the discussions at today's PSC I've written a first draft<br>
>> of a<br>
>> call for student grants:<br>
>> <a href="https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Student_Grants" rel="noreferrer" id="gmail-m_9214523757319808178tmpid_2893" target="_blank">https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Student_Grants</a> [1].<br>
>> <br>
>> Several points still need clarification (see comments in<br>
>> [brackets]).<br>
>> Feel free to edit as you see necessary.<br>
>> <br>
>> If we really want to go forward with this still before Christmas,<br>
>> then<br>
>> we need to have the final version ready by end of next week the<br>
>> latest.<br>
>> <br>
>> Enjoy your weekend !<br>
>> Moritz<br>
>> <br>
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>> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc" rel="noreferrer" id="gmail-m_9214523757319808178tmpid_5732" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc</a> [2]<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Links:<br>
> ------<br>
> [1] <a href="https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Student_Grants" rel="noreferrer" id="gmail-m_9214523757319808178tmpid_6423" target="_blank">https://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Student_Grants</a><br>
> [2] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc" rel="noreferrer" id="gmail-m_9214523757319808178tmpid_1581" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-psc</a></blockquote></div></div></div></div><br></div>