<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I'm not familiar with the Kyngesburye plugin and haven't used gdalwarp, but here:<div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I want to import it into a UTM zone 17 project. So I did the following:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">gdalwarp -t_srs '+proj=utm +zone=17 +datum=WGS84' input.sid output_utm.sid</blockquote></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div>it looks like you are just trying to create a new .sid file in zone 17 (output_utm.sid). From the meta file at the MI source, I think the file is already projected in utm - probably in zone 17, and with units of 'meters'. So what you maybe intended was to just create a .tiffg from the .sid so that it can be imported into GRASS.</div><div><br></div><div>In mrsiddecode (the app that does all the work inside the plugin - I assume) I would just issue the command</div><div><br></div><div><div>./mrsiddecode -i Hancock.sid -o Hancock_south.tif -of tifg -ulxy 0 0 -lrxy 71145 29160 </div></div><div><br></div><div>where</div><div><br></div><div>-i - input</div><div>-o - output</div><div>-of - output file type</div><div>ulxy - upper left x,y</div><div>lrxy - lower right x,y</div><div><br></div><div>and you get a nice geotiff that r.in.gdal will recognize - already in utm zone 17 most likely. Actually, in my case, the OH mrsids are projected in state plane coordinates but you get the picture.</div><div><br></div><div>To get the mrsiddecode app you must register at </div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); line-height: 15px; "><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-weight: bold; "><a href="http://developer.lizardtech.com/">http://developer.lizardtech.com/</a></span> </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 11px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); line-height: 15px; "><br></span></div><div>so you can access to the Mac version of the decoder and mrsidinfo download page. And be slightly comfortable on the command line.</div><div><br></div><div>Stu</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><div><div>On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Adam Dershowitz, Ph.D., P.E. wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I am also working on OS X. But, I am using the MrSID plugin, from William Kyngesburye. So it seems that both gdalwarp and r.in.gdal are willing to import it. But, maybe I will try to search around for the apps that you are referring to, to see if they might do a better job on the conversion. <br>Are you suggesting that the MrSID plugin that I have is working, but is loosing reference data along the way?<br><br>--Adam<br><br><br><br>On Feb 11, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Stuart Edwards wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">MrSID files are a bit tricky. This is a proprietary format owned by LizardTech (see <a href="http://www.gdal.org/frmt_mrsid.html">http://www.gdal.org/frmt_mrsid.html</a>). That being said, they freely provide decode tools at their website (<a href="http://www.lizardtech.com/">http://www.lizardtech.com/</a>). Working on OS X, I use their Raster_DSDK in a little command line routine to convert the file to a geotiff (tifg) and then import it into GRASS with r.in.gdal. Note that the MrSID format is very efficient and boils a quad down to about 1.5 Gb. This will become 3 or 4 times greater as a tif so make sure you have plenty of room to store it and process it. I use an old version of Expressview (a LizardTech viewer that used to be available for OS X) to look at the image and determine the coordinates of the bit that I really want in order to minimize the resulting file sizes.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">AFAIK there are no open source apps that deal with MrSID directly (for those that do, you have to install your own version of the decoder first)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Stu<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 11, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Adam Dershowitz, Ph.D., P.E. wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I am trying to import some data in GRASS and have run into a problem. I hope someone can give me a little insight to help out.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I downloaded some aerial imagery from here:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10371_14546-30211--,00.html">http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10371_14546-30211--,00.html</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I want to import it into a UTM zone 17 project. So I did the following:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">gdalwarp -t_srs '+proj=utm +zone=17 +datum=WGS84' input.sid output_utm.sid<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">gdapwarp responds with an error, but then continues with the conversion:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">ERROR 6: Failed to initialize PROJ.4 with `+proj=omerc +lat_0=0 +lonc=0 +alpha=0 +k=1 +x_0=0 +y_0=0 +ellps=GRS80 +datum=NAD83 +units=m +no_defs '.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">lat_0 = 0 or 90 or alpha = 90<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">0...10...20...30...40...50...60...70...80...90...100 - done.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">If I then try to import the image, into my project, it does work, but places it WAY off from where it should be (millions of meters!). I guess I should not be surprised, since the error says that it is trying to use a lat/long of 0. But I don't understand why it is not working correctly. <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">So, clearly something is wrong with how I am doing the conversion. Am I missing a flag or something? It looks to me like gdalinfo is doing a correct read, but somehow gdalwarp is missing something on the input.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Any help would be greatly appreciated. <br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">If I do gdalinfo on the input file, here is what I get:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Driver: MrSID/Multi-resolution Seamless Image Database (MrSID)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Files: oakgrove_sw.sid<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> oakgrove_sw.sdw<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"> oakgrove_sw.sid.aux.xml<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Size is 6415, 8061<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Coordinate System is:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">PROJCS["IMAGINE GeoTIFF Support<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Copyright 1991 - 2001 by ERDAS, Inc. 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