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Any idea what might be trying to load that? Typically trying to load a library that can't be found causes a crash (as was happening before). But here it must be a different load process if it can continue on just fine but is just missing a feature?<br>

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<b>From: </b>Michael Barton [<a href="mailto:Michael.Barton@asu.edu">Michael.Barton@asu.edu</a>]<br>

<b>Sent: </b>Thursday, June 02, 2016 02:48 PM Pacific Standard Time<br>

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<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date:</span> Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 4:49 PM<br class="">

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">Rebuilding Addon menu...</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">Cleaning up temporary files...</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">Starting GRASS GIS...</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/gui/wxpython/gis_set.py", line 31, in <module></span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/etc/python/wx/_core.py", line 4, in <module></span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">ImportError: dlopen(/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/etc/python/wx/_core_.so, 2): Library not loaded: @loader_path/../../../../libwx_osx_cocoau-3.0.0.2.0.dylib</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">ERROR: Error in GUI startup. See messages above (if any) and if necessary, please report this error to the GRASS developers.</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">On systems with package manager, make sure you have the right GUI package, probably named grass-gui, installed.</span></div>

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<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date:</span> Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 2:41 PM<br class="">

<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To:</span> Adam Dershowitz <<a href="mailto:adershowitz@exponent.com" class="">adershowitz@exponent.com</a>><br class="">

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<div class=""><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">I just now uploaded a new binary to the GRASS Mac website. I built wxPython against the Anaconda distribution and Python against system Python. I disabled gettext so that it hopefully will

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<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date:</span> Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 1:53 PM<br class="">

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<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class="">For example here is one:</div>

<div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;" class="">install_name_tool -change /usr/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib /Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/libintl.8.dylib /Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/libgrass_gis.7.3.svn.dylib</span></div>

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<div class=""><font face="Calibri,sans-serif" class="">The issue is that this library:  </font><font face="Menlo" size="2" class="">/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/libgrass_gis.7.3.svn.dylib  was trying to dynamically link to this:  /usr/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib

  (which doest exist on my system, but probably does on yours) instead it should have been using this:  /Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/libintl.8.dylib (which had been correctly installed on my system by the installer).  </font></div>

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<div class=""><font face="Menlo" size="2" class="">Each of the other commands that I sent showed that a number of other libraries were each looking for this:  </font><span style="font-family: Menlo; font-size: 11px;" class="">@loader_path/../../../../libwx_osx_cocoau-3.0.0.2.0.dylib

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<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date:</span> Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 11:06 AM<br class="">

<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To:</span> Adam Dershowitz <<a href="mailto:adershowitz@exponent.com" class="">adershowitz@exponent.com</a>><br class="">

<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Cc:</span> GRASS developers list <<a href="mailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org" class="">grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>, grass-user grass-user <<a href="mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org" class="">grass-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class="">

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<div class=""><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">Thanks for the report Adam. When you say you fixed the path, what exactly did you do?<br class="">

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<div class=""><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">Looks like you missed a library, or path.  I just tried it on 10.11 with SIP enabled, and I get this error:</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/local/lib/libintl.8.dylib</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  Referenced from: /Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/lib/libgrass_gis.7.3.svn.dylib</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  Reason: image not found</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/gui/wxpython/gis_set.py", line 31, in <module></span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    from core import globalvar</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/gui/wxpython/core/globalvar.py", line 29, in <module></span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    from core.debug import Debug</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/gui/wxpython/core/debug.py", line 77, in <module></span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    Debug = DebugMsg()</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/gui/wxpython/core/debug.py", line 39, in __init__</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/gui/wxpython/core/debug.py", line 45, in SetLevel</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    self.debuglevel = int(grass.gisenv().get('WX_DEBUG', 0))</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/etc/python/grass/script/core.py", line 953, in gisenv</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    s = read_command("g.gisenv", flags='n')</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/etc/python/grass/script/core.py", line 458, in read_command</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    process = pipe_command(*args, **kwargs)</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/etc/python/grass/script/core.py", line 433, in pipe_command</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    return start_command(*args, **kwargs)</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/etc/python/grass/script/core.py", line 372, in start_command</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    if debug_level() > 0:</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/etc/python/grass/script/core.py", line 1536, in debug_level</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    _debug_level = int(gisenv().get('DEBUG', 0))</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/etc/python/grass/script/core.py", line 953, in gisenv</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    s = read_command("g.gisenv", flags='n')</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/etc/python/grass/script/core.py", line 461, in read_command</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    return handle_errors(returncode, stdout, args, kwargs)</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">  File "/Applications/GRASS-7.3.app/Contents/MacOS/etc/python/grass/script/core.py", line 329, in handle_errors</span></div>

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<span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">    returncode=returncode)</span></div>

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<span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">From:</span> grass-user <<a href="mailto:grass-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" class="">grass-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> on behalf of Michael Barton <<a href="mailto:Michael.Barton@asu.edu" class="">Michael.Barton@asu.edu</a>><br class="">

<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date:</span> Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 7:50 PM<br class="">

<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To:</span> GRASS developers list <<a href="mailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org" class="">grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>, grass-user grass-user <<a href="mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org" class="">grass-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class="">

<span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject:</span> [GRASS-user] GRASS for Mac 64bit, wxPython 3, maybe fix for SIP problem - please test<br class="">

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<span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">I just posted a new binary for GRASS 7.3 built fully 64 bit, with wxPython 3.0.2.0 to the GRASS for Mac site (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__grassmac.wikidot.com&d=CwMFAg&c=t0wRGL5ICVzH157W8C8Wew&r=5usL3OGqXabRLtSzGmh8YEvbco28TaiOmWcn6rCn8wM&m=g-_vMK6bUb2L_0yJaa2OvFkqicaKTyNnPnCZOxN-i6s&s=jF8bboxVJboLDUrCG5V5xobtx6ig-JEF92VM_t_MXA4&e=" class="">http://grassmac.wikidot.com</a>)</span>

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<div class=""><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">It turns out the previous "64bit" GRASS binary still ran 32bit Python. I had to hack the python_wrapper.py file, but this one is fully 64bit AFAICT. I also tried some hacks that might be a

 way to solve the inability to run GRASS on El Capitan with SIP enabled. There are a couple of known bugs in the wxPython 3.x GUI</span></div>

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<div class=""><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">1. The most serious is switching to 3D mode and back to 2D mode leaves one of the map display menu buttons corrupted. It seems the only thing you can do is to close the map display and open

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<div class=""><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">2. There are also some popup lists (e.g., for switching mapsets) that do not behave as they should. You cannot select an item with a mouse (but you can select with arrow keys and <return>)

 unless you hit <escape> to destroy part of the control. Then you can use the mouse to click something. </span></div>

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<div class=""><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">Please let us know if you encounter any other bug or strange behavior. </span></div>

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<div class=""><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody" class="">Also,  and importantly if anyone is running El Capitan, it would be great if you could reenable SIP (if you've turned it off) and see if this version runs.  Of course, maybe I've "fixed" it

 so that it only runs on my system and crashes on everyone else's. </span></div>

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