<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Anna, I believe you are correct with your ideas, unfortunately the only fix given is way beyond my level of understanding and coding and from what I gather uses a non svn version python 4.1. There was a mention in that link to a newer version of python 4.0.8 but it seems it has not either been implemented or if it has uploaded to the repository.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Evidently the bug is in both python 3.9 and the 4.0 version currently used in the repository.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is there likely to be an updated version loaded to repository before too long that corrects the problem?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kind regards</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tim</div><div class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 11 Apr 2021, at 04:55, Anna Petrášová <<a href="mailto:kratochanna@gmail.com" class="">kratochanna@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="">Hello,</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 12:51 PM Timothy Glyn Southern via grass-user <<a href="mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org" class="">grass-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">Problem with wxpython guy in Manjaro with grass 7.8.5<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dear colleagues,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Following a period of low use due to health issues I am once again trying to use GRASS to visualise and analyse archaeological data.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am running Manjaro and the latest download of GRASS from AUR.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It starts fine and shows both display windows for the GUI and then the windows crash. It is repeatable.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have tried removing GRASS and reinstalling but that has not fixed the issue. As well I have tried changing the flags on the GUI. None make any difference, as soon as the mouse is apparently moved the windows crash.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is this a known problem and is there a work around?</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">based on your description it sounds like a bug in wxPython with Python 3.9:</div><div class=""><a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/issues/1123" class="">https://github.com/OSGeo/grass/issues/1123</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hope that helps,</div><div class="">Anna</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tim Southern<br class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class=""><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Dr Timothy Glyn Southern</div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">0155 941 8432</div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">0791 076 6814</div><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""></div></div><br class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 4 Apr 2021, at 20:00,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:grass-user-request@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">grass-user-request@lists.osgeo.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">Send grass-user mailing list submissions to<br class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">   </span><a href="mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">grass-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class=""><br class="">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class=""><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;" clas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svibar@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">tsvibar@gmail.com</a>>><br class="">   ?2021?3?29??? ??2:40???<br class=""><br class="">       Hello:<br class=""><br class="">       You might try `r.param.scale`, or even better `r.geomorphons`<br class="">       modules to<br class="">       identify geomorphology features, then filter out all pixels<br class="">       identified<br class="">       as pits.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">       r.watershed is purposely designed to overcome depressions, and<br class="">       find flow<br class="">       routing thru these spots. So I don't think you can use that<br class="">       module to<br class="">       identify depressions.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">       On 3/27/21 8:49 PM, ming han wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Hi  Everyone<br class=""><br class="">    When I do watershed delineation using r.watershed for<br class=""></blockquote>       great salt<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">lake watershed. I found r.watershed always tried to assign<br class=""></blockquote>       an outlet<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">for a great salt lake, which does actually not exist because<br class=""></blockquote>       it is an<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">inland lake and the great salt lake has no watershed outlet<br class=""></blockquote>       at all.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">     I noticed that there is a depression option. But is<br class=""></blockquote>       there any<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">way that  r.watershed can automatically identify depressions<br class=""></blockquote>       while<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">defining flow accumulation and stream network?<br class=""><br class="">Thanks<br class="">Ming<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">grass-user mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">grass-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a href="mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">grass-user@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class=""><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user</a><br class=""></blockquote>       <<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user</a>><br class=""><br class="">       --<br class="">       Micha Silver<br class="">       Ben Gurion Univ.<br class="">       Sde Boker, Remote Sensing Lab<br class="">       cell: +972-523-665918<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>--<br class="">Micha Silver<br class="">Ben Gurion Univ.<br class="">Sde Boker, Remote Sensing Lab<br class="">cell: +972-523-665918<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""></blockquote>-------------- next part --------------<br class="">An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-user/attachments/20210403/6b22a457/attachment-0001.html" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-user/attachments/20210403/6b22a457/attachment-0001.html</a>><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Subject: Digest Footer<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">grass-user mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">grass-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">End of grass-user Digest, Vol 180, Issue 4<br class="">******************************************<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">grass-user mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:grass-user@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">grass-user@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user</a></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>