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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/06/14 23:19, Cameron Shorter
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Hi Carson,<br>
Thanks for the question re how OSGeo-Live should be used within a
training setting.<br>
This is a question we have received a few times now, and I'm
interested to hear thoughts from others who have used, or wish to
use OSGeoLive in an educational setting.<br>
<br>
What is are the key use cases we are aiming to address regarding
use of OSGeo-Live in an educational setting, and in particular,
what needs are required from an educator's perspective?<br>
<br>
Is a VM suitable?<br>
What datasets are required?<br>
Is a standard OSGeo-Live distribution sufficient, or do trainers
need to download and install specific things for their course?<br>
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Dear Cameron and others,<br>
<br>
I'll try to summarize our use of the OSGeo-Live in our educational
activities such as the Spanish FOSS4G workshop, summer school on
GIS, UNIGIS MSc ...<br>
<br>
As a global assessment, we must admit that we are pretty happy
about the overall behaviour of the OSGeo-Live. We have been using
it in most of the Spanish foss4g workshops[1], covering a broad
range of issues and themes such as GIS Desktop Workshops (QGIS,
gvSIG, GRASS, PostGIS and pgRouting, ... even JASPA), Programming
workshops (Integration of geospatial free technologies, Introduction
to python for geospatial applications, programming new applications
for Sextante, ...), Web Applications Workshops (Introduction to
MapProxy, Developing Web Applications with AngularJS and Leaflet,
OpenLayers and GeoServer, ...), and other specific workshops such as
the integration of OSM data + imposm + TileMill, ...<br>
<br>
We generally don't need to install extra packages and libraries but,
if need it, we can do it without arising too many problems. So, in
general terms, there are no remarkable problems installing new
pieces of software.<br>
<br>
Sometimes the tricky issue is that the host pc has low RAM memory,
so we can't assign more than 2Gb, to the virtual machine. But, I
suppose that this has nothing to do with the OSGeo-Live.<br>
<br>
We have intensively used the OSGeo-Live to conduct the whole Summer
School each July [2], with a pretty good performance. Sometimes, we
had some troubles with few machines (slow performance, some crashes,
etc...) but without a clear and concrete reason. Just happens. :)<br>
<br>
However, during this edition we encountered a problem with OpenJump
and PostGIS. Each time we tried to configure a new connection to a
PostGIS database, OpenJump started to freeze...<br>
<br>
Regarding to the datasets, we have been using Natural Earth data and
OSM data included on the distro, as well as some external datasets.
Nothing to mention in here. Good performance in every sense.<br>
<br>
Last but not least, within the UNIGIS MSc framework, we really
encourage students to make use of the OSGeo-Live DVD for their
assignments and practical work. UNIGIS is a online MSc so sometimes,
it's a little bit difficult to help students to properly install and
make use of the OSGeo-Live virtual disk. This could take some time
but nothing specially relevant. The big issue, for those who are not
familiar with a new OS, is to not enter in a state of panic the
first time they see a linux environment in front of their eyes...
alone :) In a face-to-face courses, this is more easy to handle
than in an online course but with a little bit of patience and
positive attitude, this is not a barrier. <br>
<br>
In summary, using OSGeo-Live virtual disk has a double positive
result: discovering and working with foss4g, as well as discovering
a new OS.<br>
<br>
Thanks to all the OSGeo-Live crew for their work and passion. Good
job!<br>
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[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sigte.udg.edu/jornadassiglibre">http://www.sigte.udg.edu/jornadassiglibre</a><br>
[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.sigte.udg.edu/summerschool2014/">http://www.sigte.udg.edu/summerschool2014/</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/06/2014 9:36 am, Carson Farmer
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi Cameron, we aren't
using it (right now), but it *has* been discussed. Students
will have access to their own virtual machine during the
course, so using the OSGeo-Live image is an option. Part of
the course involves installing some of the required apps, so
we weren't sure if we wanted to go with the pre-installed
stuff on OSGeo-Live... having said that, I guess we could
work with a modified version. Any thoughts on this?
Additionally, we will be *telling* students about
OSGeo-Live, and they will leave with that as a resource.</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Cheers,</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:08 PM,
Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Suchith,<br>
Will this course make use of OSGeo-Live? If so I'd be
keen to add the details to our history page:<br>
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href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_History"
target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_History</a><br>
<br>
Keeping track of how OSGeo-Live is used provides the
motivation and business justifications people and
organisations use to justify contributing to OSGeo-Live.<br>
<br>
I'd also like to hear from any others making use of
OSGeo-Live such that we can add your use to this page.
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<div>On 18/06/2014 10:57 pm, Suchith Anand wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:carsten.kessler@gmail.com"
target="_blank">carsten.kessler@gmail.com</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:carsten.kessler@gmail.com"
target="_blank">mailto:carsten.kessler@gmail.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Carsten Kessler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 June 2014 13:45<br>
<b>To:</b> ucgis-all<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Free and Open Source GIS
course – Aug 4–8 @ Hunter College, NYC</span></p>
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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>we will be offering a five day professional
training course on FOSS GIS at Hunter
college, NYC, the first week of August: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/gis"
target="_blank">http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/gis</a> </p>
<p>Feel free to forward the course description
below to potential participants.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Carsten Kessler</p>
<p> </p>
<p><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt">FREE AND OPEN SOURCE GIS</span></b></p>
<p><b>August 4 to August 8, 2014, 9 AM to 5 PM</b></p>
<p>The Department of Geography at Hunter
College of the City University of New York
and Hunter Continuing Education are offering
a five day professional course in <b>Free and Open Source GIS</b>.
This five day course will span the entire
range of GIS data capture, management,
analysis, and visualization of geographic
information
using Free and Open Source Software (FOSS).
These different elements of the GIS workflow
will be discussed over the first four days
and will then be applied in a final project
completed on Friday. The course will combine
lectures with hands-on sessions where
participants will work with
different free and open source GIS packages.
Since we expect participants from many
different organizations in the tri-state
area, this training course also presents an
excellent networking opportunity.</p>
<p>The course is designed for
experienced GIS users who want to broaden
their skill set with expertise in the
ever-growing world
of free and open source GIS. Participants
are expected to have a technical background
and an interest in developing comprehensive
workflows using multiple software
components. While we do not require any
programming experience, we will be working
on the command line and developing some
small scripts. Participants should be eager
to master these valuable skills.</p>
<h2><u><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Instructors</span></u><span
style="font-size:14.0pt"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:normal">Carson
Farmer and Carsten Kessler are Associate
Directors of the Center for Advanced
Research of Spatial Information (CARSI
Lab) and Assistant Professors for
Geographic Information Science in the
Department of Geography at Hunter College </span><span>‐</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:normal"> CUNY.</span></h2>
<p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://carsonfarmer.com/"
target="_blank">Carson</a> has been
working with open source GIS projects,
including as core developer for QGIS, since
2007. His research interests revolve around
movements and flows of individuals,
information, and commodities within urban
environments, and the development and
implementation of novel spatial analysis
methods and software aimed at characterizing
these flows.</p>
<p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://carsten.io/" target="_blank">Carsten</a> has
extensive experience in projects
around open data and the exchange of
geographic information, both in
international research projects and as a
consultant. His research interests are in
the areas of information integration,
volunteered geographic information,
emergency management, and collaborative and
participatoryGIS.</p>
<p>Both instructors will be present for the
duration of the course to support the
participants in the hands-on exercises.</p>
<h2><u><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Location,
registration and fees</span></u><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:normal">The
course will be held at the Department of
Geography's computer lab in the Hunter
North building at Lexington and 68th
Street, Manhattan. Registration fee for
this course is $1800 and includes access
to computers and server space to run the
exercises.</span></h2>
<p>For more detailed information or to
register, visit <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/gis"
target="_blank">http://www.hunter.cuny.edu/ce/gis</a><span
style="color:#1f497d"> </span>or contact
the Hunter Continuing Education office at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:212-650-3850" target="_blank">212-650-3850</a> or <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ce@hunter.cuny.edu"
target="_blank">ce@hunter.cuny.edu</a> .</p>
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<p>---</p>
<p>Carsten Kessler – <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://carsten.io" target="_blank">http://carsten.io</a></p>
<p>Center for Advanced Research of Spatial
Information</p>
<p>Department of Geography</p>
<p>Hunter College – CUNY</p>
<p> </p>
<p>695 Park Avenue</p>
<p>New York, NY-10065</p>
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