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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I realize that my previous e-mail was
not received by the list so I summarize:<br>
<br>
1. OSGeo-Live is already cloud-ready on Synnefo stack<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.synnefo.org/">http://www.synnefo.org/</a><br>
So basically we could deploy synnefo + geneti on OSGeo
infrastructure and have a Free Software solution.<br>
Alternatively we could deploy an OpenStack instance.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openstack.org/software/">https://www.openstack.org/software/</a><br>
We should ask SAC if the above options are feasible.<br>
<br>
2. In case we want to deploy OSGeo-Live on AWS, it seems
straightforward:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/VMImportPrerequisites.html">http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/VMImportPrerequisites.html</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/">https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/</a><br>
<br>
Any other options in mind?<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Angelos<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/18/2015 01:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:56237520.9000504@gmail.com" type="cite">Bringing
a few different email threads back to one, and answering Suchith's
"next steps" question:
<br>
<br>
On 16/10/2015 12:43 am, Suchith Anand wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Cameron - from your experiences with OSGeo
live community, what do you think is the best way now forward ?
Can you please summarise all discussions so far and reply to the
public lists.Thanks.
<br>
<br>
Suchith
<br>
</blockquote>
If we are to be successful at setting up an OSGeo-Live sustainable
cloud service, I suggest we consider:
<br>
<br>
1. Would a cloud service be used? By who?
<br>
I'd suggest that people who want a cloud service speak up, say how
you would use an OSGeo-Live cloud service. We are looking here to
determine if there is a sustaining community who will step up to
keep the project maintained with each OSGeo-Live release.
<br>
<br>
2. What are the steps technically required to set up the cloud
service? Hopefully someone will step up to do the research on what
is required, and will set up a Proof-of-Concept.
<br>
<br>
3. What will hosting a cloud service cost? Would it be a
pay-as-you-use model? Would we be asking the OSGeo Foundation to
sponsor? Would we be asking workshop providers to pay for the
service?
<br>
I suspect that we could ask the OSGeo Foundation for base funding
to prove a Proof of Concept (by paying for a cloud service for 1
year or so), but ask workshop providers and other users to pay for
the service in moving forward.
<br>
This is something that can be decided once costs are understood.
<br>
<br>
4. But the bottom line is that the best chance of success will
occur if someone stands up and champions its development. Do we
have someone interested to do the hard work of making it happen?
(Speak up if interested). It certainly would be a valuable
contribution to the OSGeo community.
<br>
<br>
<br>
Warm regards, Cameron
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 14/10/2015 7:59 pm, Peter Baumann wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">> 1.Do you think it is important to
have a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM
<br>
</blockquote>
not necessarily a cloud, as the whole OSGeo Live is not
prepared.
<br>
But definitely hosting it on a VM (for easy cloning + move) is
an asset - any
<br>
demo just needs to show a URL then.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">>
<br>
> 2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this
possible
<br>
</blockquote>
find a caretaker with a machine.
<br>
Jacobs University can do that, for example, in tight
collaboration with Angelos
<br>
on technical level.
<br>
<br>
-Peter
<br>
<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
On 15/10/2015 2:53 am, Giuseppe Amatulli wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hi,
<br>
under the <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.spatial-ecology.net/">http://www.spatial-ecology.net/</a> initiative we use the
the OSGeo-Llive for courses and intensive training in Geo
Computation.
<br>
<br>
In this line we have been used also Amazon Web Service to teach
remote connection and scripting routines in the cloud. For this
I was customize a Ubuntu Instance very similar to the
OSGeo-Llive.
<br>
<br>
Nonetheless, would be grate to have the OSGeo-Llive directly
hosted in AWS to allow teach but also to provide to the course
participants something that they can use after the course.
<br>
<br>
The AWS Educate
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/"><https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/></a> provide
grants for education so maybe an official cooperation
OSGeo&AWS can be a solution to host for free a OSGeo-Llive
Instance
<br>
<br>
Best Regards
<br>
Giuseppe
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">On 10/13/2015 05:57 PM, Suchith Anand
wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">>Hi all,
<br>
>
<br>
>
<br>
>Myself, Maria and Peter are now at ESA event and had a
chance to catch up on ideas for future to expand education
globally.
<br>
>
<br>
>
<br>
>I also remembered that few months back, we had an initial
discussion on the importance of having a cloud service that
runs the OSGeo-Live VM to help running workshops at
conferences, training events etc. Venka made this idea in one
of the Geo4All AB discussions on workshops at FOSS4G Bonn that
i copy below
<br>
>
<br>
>
<br>
>"Instead of buying 80-100 computers, it could be a worth
considering to pay for a cloud service that runs the
OSGeo-Live VM. Maybe one of our sponsoring companies could be
approached to deploy such OSGeo Software as a Service
solution.Such service could be made available to any
event/institution wishing to run their own workshops anywhere
place on earth with a good internet connection and thin
client. For subsequent events or users could be charged to
cover cost of cloud hosting and paying for some developers to
maintain the system.If the experiment is successful, we can
think of replicating it in our globally through our local
chapters."
<br>
>
<br>
>
<br>
>Me, Maria and Peter in our discussions today, thought it
is good time to start doing something about this and have this
for scaling up our education and training needs globally. So
it will be good to get ideas from key people, so i request you
all to give your thoughts/ideas.
<br>
>
<br>
>
<br>
>1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service
that runs the OSGeo-Live VM.
<br>
>
<br>
>2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this
possible
<br>
>
<br>
>Looking forward to your inputs.
<br>
>
<br>
>Suchith
<br>
>
<br>
>
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