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open source initiatives in education. We will need to update this in the wiki to also avoid any misunderstandings.</font>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 26, 2015 4:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> m.j.kraak@utwente.nl; suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk; silvanacamboim@gmail.com; mfinn@usgs.gov; sg@icaci.org<br>
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<div>I want to strongly state that OSGeo is not (and has never) asked for any restriction to promoting OSGeo projects. Our mandate at OSGeo is with respect to promoting open source software - irregardless of origin.
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The scenarios are identical in this respect - I apologize if their was any misunderstanding. I tried to provide examples that showed this.
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We do strongly ask that participation in open source be emphasized. Software is paid for in love or money - ask your students to show some love.<br>
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If your choice of scenario was at all influenced by this misunderstanding I encourage you to evaluate the proposals again - they are just about organization structure.
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">ICA’s reason to participate in and stimulate GeoforAll is to support open source initiatives for education. This should be inclusive to all possible open source initiatives, not necessarily to OSGEO ‘products’ only.</span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">This means we are in favor of scenario 2. Here OSGEO, ICA, ISPRS and XXX are ‘equal’ partners, while XXX can be an organization like OSGEO or like ICA and ISPRS.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="color:rgb(0,32,96)">Both scenarios 1 and 1b seem to exclude other open source initiatives.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div>Op 17 nov. 2015, om 13:19 heeft Suchith Anand <<a href="mailto:suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank">suchith.anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> het volgende geschreven:</div>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">Thanks Jody . I have added more details into the wiki and forwarding to Geo4All advisory Board and community.</font></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">Recently there had been discussions on the future directions for Geo4All .There were different opinions and hence we arranged a meeting at Como to discuss this and find a way forward. Following lot of discussions among
our members in our mail lists etc and the meeting at Como[1] that was led by Charlie Schweik ,the consensus was that OSGeo Education and Curriculum Committee and GeoForAll are the same and it is now GeoForAll: OSGeo's Education and Curriculum Effort as reflected
in OSGeo website at <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.osgeo.org/education" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/education</a> . Venka has also presented this outcomes at FOSS4G Seoul [2]. Geo4All will continue to be inclusive and include all partners that
OSGeo Board have MOUs with for expanding this OSGeo' Geo4All education initiative and warmly welcome everyone who are following the principles.</font></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">Geo4All initiative was started with the key aim to build up OSGeo's education aims by collaborating with like minded organisations and it is one of the most successful initiatives that we have undertaken. OSGeo Board
has made separate MoUs with both ICA and ISPRS for expanding Geo4All and universities,SMEs, government organisations etc worldwide have trusted the MoUs that OSGeo provided and setup labs and joined the network , so it is important we provide strong continuity
and focus. MoUs have to be respected and the momentum created need to build upon with clear direction and focus. It is important that proper structures are in place and steps need to be taken to ensure the smooth transition to GeoForAll as OSGeo's Education
and keep collaborating with ICA, ISPRS and other organisations that OSGeo has MoU with. This will also make sure the efforts put in by lot of volunteers for this is build upon for the future.</font></p>
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<p><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255); color:rgb(37,37,37); line-height:14px"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">Geo4All had been working hard to expand OSGeo education activities globally .Members have been running courses,training events,workshops
using OSGeo software, MOOC programs (that benefitted thousands of students globally) etc have raised OSGeo education efforts globally. Geo4All members have been actively contributing to OSGeo Curriculum development effort and will continue to expand this
by having more course materials in various OSGeo software added to the OSGeo education repository for everyone to make use of for their teaching and education.</font></span></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">We will welcome and include all partners that OSGeo Board have MOUs with for expanding this OSGeo' Geo4All education initiative and warmly welcome everyone who are following the principles. That way the OSGeo Board will
be able to keep expanding the initiative and to make MoUs with other organisations etc as we are doing now (ICA, ISPRS) and also in future .</font></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12px">So steps need to be taken to ensure the smooth transition to GeoForAll as OSGeo's Education and keep collaborating with ICA, ISPRS and other organisations that OSGeo has MoU with. This will also
make sure the efforts put in by lot of volunteers for this is build upon for the future.</span></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">There are some steps that are outlined below and looking through the options - Scenario 1 seems to be best option based on the Como discussions for ensure the smooth transition to GeoForAll as OSGeo's Education and
keep collaborating with ICA, ISPRS and other organisations that OSGeo has MoU with.</font></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">In this case, the Geo4All Advisory Board would include representatives from our partners like ICA, ISPRS etc. Geo4All Advisory Board comprises of representatives from ICA, ISPRS, OSGeo and other organisations that join
in future. As a partner in the Geo4All initiative, a Project Steering Committee (PSC) comprising of VP OSGeo Foundation (Education and Curriculum Project) and other representatives (e.g Regional Chairs of Geo4All) need to be constituted within the OSGeo Foundation.
The PSC could liaise with Geo4All Advisory Board to evolve way and means to achieve mutual goals and objectives. </font></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">Charlie Schweik as VP OSGeo Foundation (Education and Curriculum Project) and other representatives (e.g Regional Chairs of Geo4All) please let us know if you are happy to being constituted within the OSGeo Foundation
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">May i request all AB members and Regional Chairs to also send their suggestions on this, so we can move forward. </font><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman'; font-size:12px">It is important that proper structures
are in place and steps need to be taken to ensure the smooth transition to GeoForAll as OSGeo's Education and keep collaborating with ICA, ISPRS and other organisations that OSGeo has MoU with. This will also make sure the efforts put in by lot of volunteers
for this is build upon for the future.</span><font size="3" face="Times New Roman">Please send your inputs before 30th Nov 2015 .Thanks.</font></p>
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<p style="font-family:Noteworthy-Light; font-size:15px">[1] <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_EU_Como_2015_Preconference_meeting" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_EU_Como_2015_Preconference_meeting</a></p>
<p style="font-family:Noteworthy-Light; font-size:15px">[2] <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.slideshare.net/VenkateshRaghavan1/g4-a-newver2" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/VenkateshRaghavan1/g4-a-newver2</a></p>
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<div>I have added an entry to<span> </span><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors#Working_Groups" target="_blank">our wiki</a> for:</div>
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<div><i>Revised Education Committee mandate pending clarification of<span> </span><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoForAll_OSGeo_Relationship" target="_blank">GeoForAll OSGeo Relationship</a><span> </span>with Geo4All advisory board</i></div>
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<div>Venkatesh Raghavan and Jeff McKenna are our representatives on the GeoForAll advisory board.<br>
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<div>Thank you for taking taking on what is an important relationship for our foundation objectives.<br>
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