<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">All,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The OGC is moving forward in our efforts for Point Cloud standardization. As presented at our most recent meeting in Sydney, Australia, the Point Cloud DWG will be releasing a survey to the interested community as a whole (not just OGC membership) to identify the most pressing requirements for standardization in the Point Cloud domain and also to seek interest from parties to participate in such standardization activities. Please stay tuned for the survey - we will be sure to copy these OSGeo lists once the survey is available.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Of course, all discussion and all work will be performed on a consensus basis in accordance to our Principles of Conduct. We will judge our work on its merit and not denigrate any pre-existing or submitted efforts.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks and Regards,</div><div class="">Scott</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 22, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Suchith Anand <<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk" class="">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); direction: ltr; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class="">Hi Cameron,</font><div class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class="">I fully agree that everyone should respect the OSGeo code of conduct and be respectful in the way the facts are presented.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font size="3" face="Times New Roman" class="">I think OSGeo have done our job of highlighting the importance of standards in <span style="line-height: 22px;" class="">LiDAR data formats through our open letter in May 2015. OGC have set up a process and it is ongoing, so i request everyone to be patient. You are right, </span>OSGeo Board is only a few volunteers, representing a large body of volunteers, so we should not overburden them with additional loads. </font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class="">It is now for OGC colleagues to continue to guide the process forward and i request everyone to work together step by step for this. It is important to be patient , listen to all viewpoints and slowly build consensus. I hope all stakeholders will work together in the common objective of Open Standards in LiDAR for the benefit of the wider geo community.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class="">Best wishes,</font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class="">Suchith</font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;" class=""><hr tabindex="-1" class=""><div id="divRpF905935" style="direction: ltr;" class=""><font face="Tahoma" size="2" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Cameron Shorter [<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" class="">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>]<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:27 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Carl Reed; Suchith Anand<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" class="">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org" class="">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Do you remember this?<br class=""></font><br class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class="">Hi Suchith, Sergio, Micha,<br class=""><br class="">Thanks Carl for highlighting the importance of mutual respect. OSGeo also has a Code-Of-Conduct [1] with similar sentiment to OGC:<br class=""><br class=""><i class="">We strive to ...</i><i class=""><br class=""></i><i class="">Be careful in the words that we choose.</i><i class=""><br class=""></i><i class="">Whether we are participating as professionals or volunteers, we value professionalism in all interactions, and take responsibility for our own speech. Be kind to others. Do not insult or put down other participants.</i><i class=""><br class=""></i><br class="">The content of the text being referenced is pushing the boundaries of our Code of Conduct [1] by making fun of another organisation.<br class=""><br class="">I suggest that we wish to raise this point with the OGC, then reword, focusing just on the facts, and ideally be respectful in the way the facts are presented.<br class=""><br class="">Hi Suchith,<br class="">I suggest being careful to not over-promise what OSGeo will do (in this case responding to a letter), unless you are volunteering to do it yourself on behalf of OSGeo. The OSGeo Board is only a few volunteers, representing a large body of volunteers. We can do much, but we do it as volunteers.<br class=""><br class="">Warm regards, Cameron<br class=""><br class="">[1]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct</a><br class=""><br class=""><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/12/2015 6:27 am, Carl Reed wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">All -<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The OGC has a formal Principals of Conduct Policy. I wrote and maintained the policy with the agreement and approval of the OGC membership.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/policies/conduct" target="_blank" class="">http://www.opengeospatial.org/ogc/policies/conduct</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This policy was initially based on the IETF conduct policy.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please read sections 3.a and 3.b as they have to do with how OGC members interact with one another as well as with the broader community.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So before "stirring the pot" on the LiDAR topic again, consider the Conduct policy as guidance on consensus building.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Happy Holidays</div><div class=""><br class="">Carl</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Suchith Anand<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk" target="_blank" class="">Suchith.Anand@nottingham.ac.uk</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="direction: ltr;" class=""><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class="">Hi Sergio, Micha,</font><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class="">Thank you for bringing this to our attention. </font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class="">The OSGeo Foundation will respond formally to this in due course as we had initiated this open letter for <span style="line-height: 22px;" class="">the need for standards in LiDAR data formats [1], [2]</span>. I request OSGeo Board to add this in the agenda of the next Board meeting and also for the F2F meeting, so we can discuss and plan next steps.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class="">But first we will wait for response from the Open Geospatial Consortium - who as per their website is <span style="background-color: rgb(246, 246, 246); line-height: 22px;" class="">committed to making quality open standards for the global geospatial community and have been working on this by setting up a Point Cloud DWG. We have put our trust in OGC in this process , so let us first get the response from OGC. I am ccing Scott Simmons of OGC to get their response.</span></font></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(246, 246, 246); line-height: 22px;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(246, 246, 246); line-height: 22px;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class="">Best wishes,</font></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(246, 246, 246); line-height: 22px;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class=""><br class=""></font></span></div><div class=""><span style="background-color: rgb(246, 246, 246); line-height: 22px;" class=""><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" class="">Suchith </font></span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">[1] <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter" target="_blank" class="">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/LIDAR_Format_Letter</a> </div><div class="">[2] <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-May/014222.html" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-May/014222.html</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 16px;" class=""><hr class=""><div style="direction: ltr;" class=""><font face="Tahoma" size="2" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>ica-osgeo-labs [<a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">ica-osgeo-labs-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] on behalf of Micha Silver [<a href="mailto:micha@arava.co.il" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:micha@arava.co.il" target="_blank">micha@arava.co.il</a>]<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, December 22, 2015 1:55 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">ica-osgeo-labs@lists.osgeo.org</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" class="">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] [OSGeo-Discuss] Do you remember this?<br class=""></font><br class=""></div><div class="">Here's the continuation:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/standards/2015-December/000960.html" target="_blank" class="">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/standards/2015-December/000960.html</a><br class=""><br class=""><div class="">On 12/22/2015 03:45 PM, SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><p class="">I remember discussing this in April: "Open Letter for the need for Open Standards in LiDAR"; now I found this interesting post: <a href="http://rapidlasso.com/2015/12/19/the-darc-force-awakens-esri-escalates-lidar-format-war/" target="_blank" class=""></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://rapidlasso.com/2015/12/19/the-darc-force-awakens-esri-escalates-lidar-format-war/" target="_blank">http://rapidlasso.com/2015/12/19/the-darc-force-awakens-esri-escalates-lidar-format-war/</a><br class=""></p><p class="">Is the empire striking back?<br class=""></p><p class=""><br class=""></p><div class=""><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper" class=""><div class="">Sergio Acosta y Lara</div><div class="">Departamento de Geomática</div><div class="">Dirección Nacional de Topografía</div><div class="">Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas</div><div class="">URUGUAY</div></div></div><br class=""><br class="">This mail was received via Mail-SeCure System.<br class=""><br class=""><fieldset target="_blank" class=""></fieldset><br class=""><pre class="">_______________________________________________
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