[Incubator] Info on the Old OSGeo Labs

Jody Garnett jody.garnett at gmail.com
Wed Mar 16 14:10:22 PDT 2016


Excellent discussion Bruce, thank you. I agree with the general feel here,
that we are on a scale  of "Community" (minimal) to "Project" (showcase
best practice).

The miss assumption is "starting out" or "immature" - projects like
pgRouting, GeoWebCache, proj4js are simply "small". We would like an
opportunity as a foundation to support these projects and include them in
our organization.

The downside to Hatch and Nurture is that they assume that a project will
proceed towards graduation. While we may be able to capture this as a
"staged" incubation process (as per Bob's suggestion) it also suffers from
this perspective that the projects are "not ready yet".

I wonder if we could take this conversation in the other direction, contact
projects like pgRouting and asking what would appeal (rather than guessing
at this end what would be attractive).

* As a uDig lead I was dissuaded from joining OSGeo by being unable to meet
the various incubation viability requirements (the project was too small).

* In prior conversations with Kevin Smith from GeoWebCache there is simply
not a business driver to moving from labs to incubation - the project is
not attracting enough committers to qualify. Indeed any available time to
work on the project is put into the project directly.

--
Jody Garnett

On 16 March 2016 at 00:08, Bruce Bannerman <bruce.bannerman.osgeo at gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Perhaps this is where we need to start.
>
> What is it that we're trying to establish, together with the rationale. We
> can sort a name from there, rather than assuming that everyone is familiar
> with what the old 'Labs' were intended for.
>
> In response to your question:
>
> Assumption by me:  The 'thing' is intended to support projects and their
> communities that are small, immature, or just starting out. These projects
> are not ready to begin graduation, or perhaps do not want to go through the
> process at this stage.
>
> Therefore, we want to find a way to encourage them into the OSGeo
> Community, Principles and way of working. Projects may or may not wish to
> enter graduation as they evolve.
>
> Therefore, I saw that we could have a nurturing role for these projects,
> to provide them with basic infrastructure for web presence, project
> governance and code repositories. If projects express an interest we could
> introduce them to some of the concepts required of an OSGeo Project in
> graduation. This is heading in the direction that Bob Basques suggested for
> staged graduation.
>
> I see this as potentially a nuturing role, hence the two terms:
>
> OSGeo Hatch (as in hatchery for new projects)
>
> OSGeo Nurture.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
> If my assumption as to the intent of this 'thing' is incorrect, then
> perhaps we could clarify as a starting point.
>
> Bruce
>
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