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Hi all,<br>
<br>
Please see my reply below:<br>
<br>
Frank Warmerdam wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:46D6FE84.2030007@pobox.com" type="cite"><br>
Folks,
<br>
<br>
In the interest of helping us work through whether JVNMobileGIS is a
good
<br>
candidate project, I thought it might be prudent to review our project
<br>
selection criteria in light of this project.
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/evaluation.html">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/evaluation.html</a>
<br>
<br>
> Criteria (must haves):
<br>
>
<br>
> 1. The code is under an OSI approved license (data & doc
<br>
> projects need to specify their choice for a type of license).
<br>
<br>
Yes, the project is under GPLv2.
<br>
<br>
> 2. The project is willing to keep code clear of encumbrances
<br>
<br>
I presume this is the case. Khanh, is the project prepared to put
<br>
into place contributor guidelines something along the line of
<br>
the following, and enforce them?
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Commiter_Responsibilities_Guidelines">http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Commiter_Responsibilities_Guidelines</a>
<br>
</blockquote>
Khanh: Yes, we will have guidelines soon. For now, JVNMobileGIS
documentation is quite poor because it is still in early stage.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:46D6FE84.2030007@pobox.com" type="cite"><br>
> 3. The project is "geospatial", or directly in support of
<br>
> geospatial applications.
<br>
<br>
yes, the project is clearly geospatial.
<br>
<br>
> Desirable Attributes:
<br>
>
<br>
> 1. Open source software is already reasonably mature (working
<br>
> quality code).
<br>
<br>
It is clearly operational. I'm not too clear on it's maturity level,
<br>
though it isn't critical it be *very* mature.
<br>
<br>
> 2. Project already has a substantial user community.
<br>
<br>
The application reports a user community of 20. Are these
<br>
application develops building customized applications on
<br>
top of JVNMobileGIS? Actually end users using it on their
<br>
mobile phones? If it is application developesr then it is
<br>
substantial. If it is folks with phones, then I'd have to
<br>
say it is a small user base still.
<br>
</blockquote>
Khanh: It was the estimated number of end users at the time I wrote
report. Now the number of download is growing to hundreds.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:46D6FE84.2030007@pobox.com" type="cite"><br>
> 3. Project already has a substantial and diverse developer
community.
<br>
<br>
I understand there are 3 contributing developers from the application.
<br>
This is a pretty small community though by no means a "one man
project".
<br>
</blockquote>
Khanh: Yes, it's still small. I will call for contribution from
JavaVietnam.org community.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:46D6FE84.2030007@pobox.com" type="cite"><br>
> 4. Project members are aware of, and implements support for,
<br>
> relevant standards (ie. OGC, etc).
<br>
<br>
The application reports supporting open standards of OGC and JCP
<br>
but it does not elaborate. I'd like to understand if it supports
<br>
access to remote WMS servers, or what other sorts of protocols
<br>
it supports now or plans to support.
<br>
<br>
I don't think that JCP related standards are what we are looking
<br>
for in this item.
<br>
</blockquote>
Khanh: Currently JVNMobileGIS supports WMS (on HTTP/HTTPS). It is
planned to support WFS in future.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:46D6FE84.2030007@pobox.com" type="cite"><br>
> 5. Project has linkages with existing foundation projects.
<br>
<br>
According to the application there are none, but this has been
<br>
the first point of discussion here on the list. I don't think
<br>
GeoTools targets Java ME but in my ideal world we would have some
<br>
GeoTools components that are JavaME-safe and were used by
<br>
JVNMobileGIS. Is this a practical direction to aim?
<br>
</blockquote>
Khanh: Will aim to make use of popular GIS foundation projects.
Actually I have considered using Geotools but didn't find a way to use
it effectively yet.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:46D6FE84.2030007@pobox.com" type="cite"><br>
> 6. Project fills a gap related to software that the foundation
supports.
<br>
<br>
Java based mobile applications is definately a gap, and one I would
<br>
like to see filled. I find this a very compelling reason supporting
<br>
the JVNMobileGIS application.
<br>
<br>
> 7. Project is prepared to develop in an open and collaborative
fashion.
<br>
<br>
Khanh, perhaps you can comment briefly. I think we are looking for
<br>
a willingness to allow outside contributors, and to establish a
<br>
collaborative way of making technology and other decisions.
<br>
</blockquote>
Khanh: Yes, I have prepared many things to make JVNMobileGIS ready for
an open development environment.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:46D6FE84.2030007@pobox.com" type="cite"><br>
> 8. Project has contributions and interest from more than just
one
<br>
> company/organization.
<br>
<br>
I am unclear from the application what organizations are
<br>
involved, though it does report "we attract government
<br>
and academic research". I do think there is every reason
<br>
to believe an open source java mobile mapping and gis
<br>
project could attract broad interest.
<br>
</blockquote>
Khanh: GIS is still not popular in Vietnam. So we target at specific
users first then we will broadcast it to other types of user.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:46D6FE84.2030007@pobox.com" type="cite"><br>
> 9. Project is willing to migrate some or all of its
<br>
> infrastructure (code repository, web site, wiki, mailing list,
<br>
> etc) to foundation support infrastructure, and to adopt a
<br>
> website style consistent with the foundation.
<br>
<br>
Khanh, perhaps you could comment on whether this of interest?
<br>
I thought I saw some stuff about this in the application, but
<br>
on review I don't see anything directly applying. In any event
<br>
I consider this a minor issue.
<br>
</blockquote>
Khanh: Google Code provides us a good infrastructure, but I'm willing
to migrate all to a foundation support infrastructure.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:46D6FE84.2030007@pobox.com" type="cite"><br>
Overall, my initial sense is that this would be a great project
<br>
to have associated with OSGeo. However, I have no technical
<br>
experience with the project and I am hoping some folks can
<br>
actually try it out, review the code and give us a sense of
<br>
it's maturity and whether this project is organized such that
<br>
it will be a good "java mobile gis" platform going forward.
<br>
<br>
As other are, I'm also interested in see what linkages make
<br>
sense with our other Java and/or mobile efforts.
<br>
<br>
Best regards,
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
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Khanh Le Ngoc Quoc
Administrator - JavaVietnam
462 Nguyen Kiem street, Phu Nhuan district - Ho Chi Minh City - Vietnam
Tel: (084) 82 169 771
Mobile: (084) 908 625 123
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