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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Bruce and all,<br>
<br>
thanks for all your attentive and diligent following of the
project, and all the helpful hints! A few early-morning thoughts
here. In the attempt to find out where we stand I observe that
moving the trac to OSGeo is not required by OSGeo, and there are
important projects who have not done that. PostGIS comes to my
mind. As rasdaman is cross-community, people from the Life
sciences and other communities (like astro) might be puzzled, and
what if a future "OS-Life-Science.org" would request the same? ;-)
I do find it useful, though, to establish a summary page of
rasdaman on OSGeo.<br>
<br>
I am not aware that rasdaman is being perceived as a pure research
project - rasdaman GmbH is one of the key committers, and states
its support prominently at its own pages (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rasdaman.com">www.rasdaman.com</a> ->
"our service", bottom left). Further, the "rasdaman cloud" is
substantial in advancing industry-oriented standards like OGC,
INSPIRE, and ISO SQL. Is there any evidence support for such
concerns?<br>
<br>
Oh, and then rasdaman is on OSGeo Live since quite some time now,
and tighly involved in its work.<br>
<br>
Recent work on implementing OSGeo and your diligent mentoring has
helped the project substantially to advance, are we maybe
approaching an 80/20 feasibility line? As always, we are ready to
learn.<br>
<br>
Just some thoughts...<br>
-Peter<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/11/2013 12:19 AM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:<br>
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Jody,<br>
<br>
I think that the remaining issues are more related to community
process development.<br>
<br>
We still haven’t made the transition to a truly open community:<br>
<br>
<ul>
<li>Most activity and decision making still appears to be
centered around Jakobs Uni / Rasdaman.com. I haven’t seen much
discussion on the lists around a PSC, apart from my and Alan
Beccati’s comments.
</li>
<li>I do know from discussions with Peter Baumann that there are
a number of users and potentially developers within Europe,
particularly Germany who are hesitant to discuss issues openly
in English, but do converse amongst themselves. So we have a
cultural / language issue here as well, with potentially
hidden processes that the rest of the community does not see.
</li>
<li>Though there is still quite a lot of developer contribution
coming from other areas as well.
</li>
<li>Rasdaman have recently opened up access to their wiki hosted
at Jakobs Uni after a request for access by myself to the
mailing list.
</li>
<li>I haven’t raised it yet with the community, though I do
wonder how much of a deterrent having the wiki, trac etc
hosted at Jakobs is to more open development of the Rasdaman
Community. It does leave the perception of being a research
oriented project.
</li>
<li>Perhaps this infrastructure would be better hosted within
the OSGeo umbrella, however this would probably be a big
disruption to the community at this stage of their
development. Thoughts?<br>
</li>
</ul>
<br>
So in answer to your question, I think that we will need some time
for processes and the community to come together into a more
cohesive and open environment.<br>
<br>
Bruce<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/02/13 9:54 AM, "Jody Garnett" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="jody.garnett@gmail.com">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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Thanks for the status update Bruce - moving to a continuous
build is a huge load off the developers.<br>
Is there anything we can do to help Rasdaman along? Or is it
just case of finding the time ...<br>
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- Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
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- Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
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