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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I agree with Jody's and Bruce's
comments, and refer back to our Graduation Checklist:<br>
<a
href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a><br>
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<i>The project has demonstrated ...[an] active and healthy
community:</i><i><br>
</i><i>...</i><i><br>
</i><i>Long term viability of the project is demonstrated by
showing participation and direction from multiple developers,
who come from multiple organisations.</i><i><br>
</i><i>Eg. The project is resilient enough to sustain loss of a
developer or supporting organisation, often referred to as
having a high bus factor. Decisions are made openly instead of
behind closed doors, which empowers all developers to take
ownership of the project and facilitates spreading of knowledge
between current and future team members.</i><br>
<br>
<br>
On 31/07/2013 3:29 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
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<div> <span style="font-size: 14px;">So I think that means they
do not quality for OSGeo incubation. Part of our driver here
is to promote open development (i.e. to ensure that anyone can
take part - it is not pay-to-play, or in the benevolent
dictatorship case create-to-play).</span> </div>
<div><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 14px;">Note "play" in the case is
about "making significant strategic decisions" rather than
simply "commit".</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 14px;">I am not personally against
benevolent dictatorship, that is how JTS (foundation of our
industry) operates. It is just not the ideal we to promote as
an organisation.</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 14px;">With that in mind, I expect
you can read the announcement of "benevolent dictator" as
truth in advertising (which is to be applauded). Please check
with the project if open development is something they wish to
work towards while in incubation, or if they wish to withdraw
from incubation.</span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="font-size: 14px;">If you feel especially worried
about this one we can bump it up to the board to confirm our
mandate as incubation committee, but this looks to fall within
our jurisdiction (specifically your role as mentor).</span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 14px;"><br>
</span></div>
<div>-- </div>
<div>
<div>Jody Garnett<br>
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<p style="color: #A0A0A8;">On Wednesday, 31 July 2013 at 10:00 AM,
Bruce Bannerman wrote:</p>
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<div>Please note the email exchange below.<br>
<br>
I would appreciate some advice from my Incubation
Committee colleagues prior to progressing further
with this issue.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The Rasdaman project has now declared itself to be
"benevolent dictatorship" project.<br>
<br>
I have been concerned for some time over the
amount of decision making control that is held
within the leadership group. This group is closely
related to the Rasdaman GmbH company.<br>
<br>
While the project leadership team are making
positive steps to open up discussions on issues to
the wider community, the decision making process
is far from transparent and is tightly controlled.<br>
<br>
I'm personally not comfortable with this situation
and am seeing a real danger of the project
becoming a free development team for Rasdaman
GmbH, but with the project members having no real
control over the future directions of the project.<br>
<br>
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<div>You may also recall my comments in my last
Incubation Report [1] relating to the decision
making process in this project.<br>
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Is this a situation that we wish to see within an
OSGeo endorsed project?<br>
<br>
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What are your thoughts on the matter?<br>
<br>
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Bruce<br>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <b>Bruce Bannerman</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au">B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au</a>></span><br>
Date: Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:49 AM<br>
Subject: FW: [rasdaman-dev] patch quality
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<br>
To: Bruce Bannerman <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<br>
On 30/07/13 4:53 PM, "Peter Baumann" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
>Bruce,<br>
><br>
>as below:<br>
><br>
>On 07/30/2013 02:53 AM, Bruce Bannerman
wrote:<br>
>> Peter,<br>
>><br>
>> Out of interest:<br>
>><br>
>> What process are we using to review and
accept contributed patches?<br>
><br>
>the patch manager page accepts submissions,
which are reviewed by<br>
>committers<br>
>internally. Everyone can commit, upon doubts
we discuss. Accepted or<br>
>rejected,<br>
>submitters get notified.<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> Who undertakes this work?<br>
><br>
>committers currently are:<br>
>Peter Baumann<br>
>Dimitar Misev<br>
>Stephan Meissl<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> Do we have a formal group of
'committers' to undertake this task?<br>
><br>
>the above ones who get active depending on
availability (we have a quite<br>
>high<br>
>submission frequency).<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> How do community members become
committers? What process is used?<br>
><br>
>as Piero mentioned recently: we have the
"benevolent dictatorship"<br>
>variant in place.<br>
>open and free discussion, and everybody for
sure is heard, but I reserve<br>
>the<br>
>right for an ultimate decision.<br>
><br>
>-Peter<br>
><br>
><br>
>><br>
>> Bruce<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 29/07/13 5:24 PM, "Peter Baumann"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Dear contributors,<br>
>>><br>
>>> continuously you are greatly
enhancing rasdaman. Please take care of<br>
>>>the<br>
>>> advice<br>
>>> given on the patch submission page,
in particular the code guide.<br>
>>> Frequent issues which may lead to
rejection of a patch:<br>
>>> - no test provided for the
fix/enhancement<br>
>>> - code guide violated, most
commonly: formatting, use of variables<br>
>>> - fix addresses local problem
reported, but obviously leaves open the<br>
>>> "hole" for<br>
>>> other, similar situations<br>
>>><br>
>>> In particular fixes submitted
against master must adhere to our<br>
>>> guidelines.<br>
>>><br>
>>> thanks for caring, and keep on
doing good things,<br>
>>> Peter<br>
>>><br>
>>> PS: an announcement: having Susanne
on board now (she comes from the<br>
>>> PostgreSQL<br>
>>> and MySQL communities) we are
getting further insights into OS code<br>
>>> management.<br>
>>> Stay tuned, she has spotted our
petascope error handling!<br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Dr. Peter Baumann<br>
>>> - Professor of Computer Science,
Jacobs University Bremen<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann"
target="_blank">www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann</a><br>
>>> mail: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a><br>
>>> tel: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B49-421-200-3178"
value="+494212003178">+49-421-200-3178</a>,
fax: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B49-421-200-493178"
value="+49421200493178">+49-421-200-493178</a><br>
>>> - Executive Director, rasdaman
GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)<br>
>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rasdaman.com" target="_blank">www.rasdaman.com</a>,
mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com">baumann@rasdaman.com</a><br>
>>> tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax:
0800-rasdafax, mobile: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B49-173-5837882"
value="+491735837882">+49-173-5837882</a><br>
>>> "Si forte in alienas manus
oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis<br>
>>> ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata,
precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli<br>
>>> destinata, nec preripiat quisquam
non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer,<br>
>>>AD<br>
>>> 1083)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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>>><br>
>>><br>
><br>
>--<br>
>Dr. Peter Baumann<br>
> - Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs
University Bremen<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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value="+49421200493178">+49-421-200-493178</a><br>
> - Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen
(HRB 26793)<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rasdaman.com" target="_blank">www.rasdaman.com</a>,
mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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> tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax,
mobile: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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value="+491735837882">+49-173-5837882</a><br>
>"Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec
peregrina epistola incertis<br>
>ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur
ut ei reddatur cui soli<br>
>destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi
parata." (mail disclaimer, AD<br>
>1083)<br>
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