<div dir="ltr"><div>Cameron,<br></div><div><br>I’m not wedded to the specific wording that I added.<br><br>I do however feel strongly about the concept.<br><br>My concern stems from my experiences in mentoring the Rasdaman project over several years.<br>
<br>Late in the Incubation process, the project has declared itself to follow a ‘Benevolent Dictatorship’ model, with control of the project exercised by a small group from essentially one organisation. I currently cannot see how community members can be elected on merit into decision making / management roles within the community. I did raise this with InCom around five months ago [1].<br>
<br>While this issue has still to play itself out within the Rasdaman Community, there are lessons to be learnt for future projects that go through the Incubation process.<br><br><br><br>I’d like to see the issue of 'openness', particularly in project governance brought out into the open and ***addressed*** early in the incubation process. <br>
<br><div><br><br>I do understand that it helps for a project to have active support from at least one organisation (commercial, government, NGO, research etc) for long term viability. However it is not desirable for a single organisation to control the directions of the project for the long term. <br>
<br>I also acknowledge that in the short term that the support of a single organisation may be critical for the project to gain sufficient momentum to become self-sustaining.<br></div><br></div><div>If we can bring this issue out into the open early, then we can work through it with the project proposers and decide jointly on how to address it.<br>
</div><div><br>This way we can potentially avoid wasting the project community's and mentor’s time.<br><br><br></div>Bruce<br><div><br>[1] <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2013-July/002219.html">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2013-July/002219.html</a> <br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Tuesday, 7 January 2014 7:42 am<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Bruce Bannerman <<a href="mailto:B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au" target="_blank">B.Bannerman@bom.gov.au</a>>, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Incubator <<a href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Incubator] Suggested tweaks to incubator docs [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<br>
</div><div><br></div><div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div>On 06/01/14 10:06, Bruce Bannerman wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Cameron,</div><div><br></div><div>I made a couple of minor tweaks </div>
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Thanks.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div>and added the following question to the draft Incubator Application Questionnaire:</div><div><br></div><div>“Please describe any factors that would stop '''any''' suitable member of your community from taking a committer, management or decision making role within your project community.”</div>
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Hi Bruce, I'm not comfortable with the above sentence as it stands. In particular, rather than asking for a specific FACT which can be backed by a metric, it is asking for an OPINION requesting arguments against the project. (A supporter of a project is probably
not the likely person to provide that OPINION.)<br><br>
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