<div dir="ltr">Okay I see the confusion, the evaluation criteria did not really match up with the initial application. Instead the evaluation criteria was covering the same ground as the graduation checklist.<div><br></div>
<div>I have a draft of the project status template:</div><div><br></div><div>* <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Status_Draft">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Status_Draft</a></div><div><br></div><div>In order to reduce overlap with the project graduation checklist I have given this document a new focus - namely setting up a project when it first enters incubation.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Comments? Even if it just encouragement that we should continue in this direction.</div><div>--</div><div>Jody</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Jody Garnett</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Jody Garnett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Thanks Landon - I think we missed something when combining [1] and [2].<div><br></div><div>The idea is to still ask the questions, but to also write down (in italics) the criteria used to evaluate the answer. Since many of the questions directly ask about the criteria this results in an easy to understand document. And can be used to identify questions in the status template (such as infrastructure) that are off topic.<div>
<br></div><div>Example(s):</div><div><br></div><div><b>Q: Is there a functioning user support mechanisms (ie. mailing list)?</b></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div>Indicate the available user support mechanisms, and whether they seem to be functioning well (are getting used and get answers).</div>
</blockquote><div><i><br></i></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><i>Desirable: Project already has a substantial user community.</i></div></blockquote><div><div style="font-weight:bold">
<br></div><div style="font-weight:bold">Q: Are source and binary downloads for the package available?</div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><div>yes/no (and any caveats)</div>
</div><div><br></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><i>Required: The code is under an OSI approved license</i></div><div><i>Required: Data & doc projects need to specify their choice for a type of license.</i></div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div><b>Q: Has a Project Steering Committee been formed, and given control of the project?</b></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div>yes/no, indicate members and whether it has effective control.</div>
<div><br></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><i>Desirable: </i><i>Project is prepared to develop in an open and collaborative fashion.</i></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
<div><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><b>Q: How many active developers are there? Are they from multiple organizations?</b></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div>Indicate number and some organizations involved.</div>
<div><br></div><div><i>Desirable: </i>Project has contributions and interest from more than just one company/organization.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I still prefer the graduation checklist[3] to these earlier documents. It also covers infrastructure (as an option) near the end.<br>
</div><div>--</div><div>Jody</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/statustemplate.html" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/statustemplate.html</a></div><div>[2] <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/evaluation.html" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/evaluation.html</a></div>
<div>[3] <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>
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<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Landon Blake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sunburned.surveyor@gmail.com" target="_blank">sunburned.surveyor@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>I've combined the Application Questions and Evaluation Criteria for Incubation into a single wiki page, as was suggested. I also took care of the edits recommended by Jody. The result is here:<br>
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<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Evaluation_Criteria" target="_blank">wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Evaluation_Criteria</a><br><br></div>Please review and comment so I can take care of any changes and we can have a vote to officially adopt.<br>
<br>Thanks.<span><font color="#888888"><br><br>Landon<br></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Landon Blake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sunburned.surveyor@gmail.com" target="_blank">sunburned.surveyor@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Let me see if I can get this taken care of this week.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888">Landon<br></font></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Landon,<br>
You are welcome to edit the wiki (which is unofficial), we need a
motion to move the wiki version approved and set as an official
document.<div><div><br>
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On 01/03/14 02:35, Landon Blake wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Do we need some type of motion to make the edits,
or does someone just need to do it?<br>
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Landon<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 11:56 AM,
Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>On 20/02/14 06:10, Daniel Morissette wrote:<br>
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On 14-02-19 7:04 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
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Evaluation Criteria:<br>
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Do not understand why "Project is prepared to develop
in an open and<br>
collaborative fashion." was cut, is this not the
sticking point we have<br>
run into a couple times now?<br>
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I feel that we could combine the questionnaire and the
evaluation<br>
criteria. By using italics in the template.<br>
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Same question here. I also don't understand why this one
was taken out.<br>
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Actually, I think there are two items that were cut and
are important enough to justify being there:<br>
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# Project is prepared to develop in an open and
collaborative fashion.<br>
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# Project has contributions and interest from more than
just one company/organization.<br>
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Yes, valid points by both Jody and Daniel.<br>
Jody, I agree that merging these two documents as you
suggest will simplify the process and future maintenance. It
is a very good idea.
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