<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div>Peter,<br><br></div>The responses to the criteria will be very specific to the Rasdaman Project. Therefore, I don't think that a reference project will help that much. Particularly as the Incubation process has matured over the years.<br>
<br></div>Let's set the benchmark for how future such Incubation Graduation reports should be done.<br><br></div>The criteria has been clearly defined (IMHO).<br><br></div>We just need to respond accordingly.<br><br></div>
Let's prepare a first draft and proceed from there.<br><br></div><div>From below:<br><br>- provide a short succinct statement that explains the
details of how Rasdaman meets each requirement.<br><br></div><div>Much of what we will need to reference has already been documented on the Rasdaman wiki. We do not need to reproduce the wiki content in the document. Just make the case for each criterion and refer readers to the appropriate URL for more information.<br>
</div><div><br><br></div>Bruce<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 12:19 AM, Peter Baumann <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de" target="_blank">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Bruce,<br>
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great to have you back!<br>
To better understand your suggestions below, what reference
project in OSGeo could we follow?<br>
I am cc'ing to the incubation list for the same question.<br>
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TIA,<br>
Peter<div class=""><br>
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On 05/21/2014 12:06 AM, Bruce Bannerman wrote:<br>
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The OSGeo Incubation Project Graduation
Checklist is at [1].<br>
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We need to be able to make the case that the
Rasdaman Project meets the requirements
outlined in this checklist.<br>
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I suggest that this is best done if we were to
construct a concise document that clearly
addresses each point of the checklist showing
how Rasdaman is ready for graduation, and that
contains links back to the authoritative
corresponding page within the Rasdaman Project
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We currently have at least two pages that refer
to the incubation status of Rasdaman [2] and
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The page at [3] is probably a good starting point.<br>
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- treat the the checklist at [1] as a set of
requirements that we need to meet. We need to be able
to convince the Incubation Committee and the OSGeo
Board that the Rasdaman Project is ready for
graduation from the Incubation process. <br>
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- provide a short succinct statement that explains the
details of how Rasdaman meets each requirement. I
don't believe that an icon with a tick will be
sufficient to convince people who are unfamiliar with
the project that the requirement is met.<br>
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- There may be follow up work that is also required, e.g.
ensuring that we have resolved all outstanding IP issues.
As an example, one of the requirements is that all project
documentation is available via an open license (e.g.
Creative Commons) to ensure that the documentation is
available for re-use. How is this handled on both the wiki
and also in static documentation.<br>
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Let's start with an initial draft and work out what needs to
be done from there. We may need to set up a Google hangout
or two once we've had time to reflect on the draft.<br>
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Is this sufficient information for now to proceed on?<br>
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When do you think that we could get a first draft to review? <br>
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<div>I hope this helps.<br>
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<div>I'm sorry about the recent delay from
my end, however as I explained recently it
has been unavoidable.<br>
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[1] <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a>
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[2] <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Rasdaman_Incubation_Status" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Rasdaman_Incubation_Status</a>
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[3] <a href="http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist" target="_blank">http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist</a>
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On 19/05/2014 3:45 am, "Peter
Baumann" <<a href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com" target="_blank">baumann@rasdaman.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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>Hi Bruce,<br>
><br>
>you once suggested to
continue the "last mile" of
incubation in May - so<br>
>I am<br>
>wondering whether there is
anything that can be done from
our side. We're<br>
>happy<br>
>to look at any potential
remaining issue.<br>
><br>
>best,<br>
>Peter<br>
><br>
><br>
>On 03/02/2014 09:46 PM,
Bruce Bannerman wrote:<br>
>> Thanks for the prompt
Peter,<br>
>><br>
>> Sorry, I'm in the
middle of preparations for an
important trip.<br>
>><br>
>> I did not see any
further discussion within the
Community on the<br>
>>Governance pages, so it
is time to progress the
incubation issue.<br>
>><br>
>> To expedite matters,
can I suggest that we get the
Rasdaman Incubation<br>
>>Status pages updated.
We'll also need to make sure
that all outstanding<br>
>>intellectual property
issues have been resolved. From
memory there were<br>
>>one or two outstanding.<br>
>><br>
>> Bruce<br>
>><br>
>>
________________________________________<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com</a>]
On<br>
>>Behalf Of Peter Baumann
[<a href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de" target="_blank">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a>]<br>
>> Sent: Saturday, 1 March
2014 7:12 AM<br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com</a>;
Bruce Bannerman;<br>
>><a href="mailto:rasdaman-users@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">rasdaman-users@googlegroups.com</a><br>
>> Subject: Re:
[rasdaman-dev] finally: a
governance document<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Bruce,<br>
>><br>
>> while we are otherwise
in excellent contact I seem to
be missing any<br>
>>response to<br>
>> my recent inquiries on
OSGeo graduation.<br>
>> Looking forward to
learning your opinion on the
status of rasdaman.<br>
>><br>
>> thanks,<br>
>> Peter<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 02/17/2014 08:07 PM,
Peter Baumann wrote:<br>
>>> Hi again Bruce,<br>
>>><br>
>>> how do you see it
from your perspective: anything
missing for rasdaman<br>
>>> graduation?<br>
>>> Kindly let us know
any issue you would want to see
addressed.<br>
>>><br>
>>> best,<br>
>>> Peter<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 01/27/2014 03:43
PM, Peter Baumann wrote:<br>
>>>> Bruce-<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> interesting
twist by Alan - how would you
see rasdaman's position<br>
>>>>currently,<br>
>>>> is there
anything still missing? (of
course we are not perfect yet,<br>
>>>>and that<br>
>>>> there is always
room for improvement)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> cheers,<br>
>>>> Peter<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 01/10/2014
04:19 PM, Beccati, Alan wrote:<br>
>>>>> It is great
to see this step towards an
enhanced success for the<br>
>>>>>rasdaman<br>
>>>>> community,
and towards our project
graduation of course.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Alan<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>
-----Original Message-----<br>
>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com</a><br>
>>>>>[mailto:<a href="mailto:rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com</a>]<br>
>>>>> On Behalf
Of Peter Baumann<br>
>>>>> Sent: 07
January 2014 12:02<br>
>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:rasdaman-users@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">rasdaman-users@googlegroups.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com</a><br>
>>>>> Subject:
[rasdaman-dev] finally: a
governance document<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Hi all,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> fresh year,
fresh results: finally, after
getting to breath with 9.0<br>
>>>>>
finalization, a governance page
has been set up - nothing<br>
>>>>>surprising,
in<br>
>>>>> particular
no change over status quo, just
written down as a matter<br>
>>>>>of good<br>
>>>>>
housekeeping of the project.<br>
>>>>> It is
available here: <a href="http://rasdaman.org/wiki/Governance" target="_blank">http://rasdaman.org/wiki/Governance</a><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Happy (rest
of) 2014,<br>
>>>>> Peter<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> Dr. Peter
Baumann<br></div></div>
>>>>> Â Â -
Professor of Computer Science,
Jacobs University Bremen<br>
>>>>> Â Â Â <a href="http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann" target="_blank">www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann</a><br>
>>>>> Â Â Â
mail: <a href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de" target="_blank">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a><br>
>>>>> Â Â Â
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fax: <a href="tel:%2B49-421-200-493178" value="+49421200493178" target="_blank">+49-421-200-493178</a><br>
>>>>> Â Â -
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GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)<br>
>>>>> Â Â Â <a href="http://www.rasdaman.com" target="_blank">www.rasdaman.com</a>,
mail: <a href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com" target="_blank">baumann@rasdaman.com</a><br>
>>>>> Â Â Â
tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax:
0800-rasdafax, mobile:<div class=""><br>
>>>>><a href="tel:%2B49-173-5837882" value="+491735837882" target="_blank">+49-173-5837882</a>
"Si<br>
>>>>> forte in
alienas manus oberraverit hec
peregrina epistola incertis<br>
>>>>>ventis<br>
>>>>> dimissa,
sed Deo commendata, precamur ut
ei reddatur cui soli<br>
>>>>>destinata,
nec<br>
>>>>> preripiat
quisquam non sibi parata." (mail
disclaimer, AD 1083)<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Dr. Peter Baumann<br></div>
>> Â Â - Professor of
Computer Science, Jacobs
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>> Â Â Â <a href="http://www.rasdaman.com" target="_blank">www.rasdaman.com</a>,
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>> "Si forte in alienas
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epistola incertis<br>
>>ventis<br>
>> dimissa, sed Deo
commendata, precamur ut ei
reddatur cui soli<br>
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- Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
<a href="http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann" target="_blank">www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann</a>
mail: <a href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de" target="_blank">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a>
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- Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
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