<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Can we move on from this discussion please? The criteria has been defined and accepted by the Incubation Committee.<br><br></div><div>I personally find that version 2 [1] of the OSGeo graduation checklist is much easier to work with than version 1 [2] and allows a stronger case to be made for the project that is seeking graduation.<br>
</div><div><br>A quick compare between what the Rasdaman community already have in their checklist and the current OSGeo Project Graduation Checklist will show very little difference. I have identified these issues already in my earlier email [3].<br>
</div><br>The main difference that I found is about 'openness'. If this is the sticking point, please say so and we can move forward. I would not have thought that this was a problem for the Rasdaman Open Source Community though.<br>
<br></div>I'm personally very short on volunteer time and would rather spend that on working through Rasdaman graduation issues. I have no doubt that I'm not the only person in this position.<br><br><br></div></div>
Bruce<br><br>[1] <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a> <br><br>[2] <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist_v1.html">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist_v1.html</a><br>
<br>[3] <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2014-June/002436.html">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2014-June/002436.html</a> <br><br><br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Peter, yes in an ideal world with unlimited volunteer energy, it
would be good to have someone write a changes doc. In reality, I
don't expect someone will write it, unless you do.<br>
However, I think the best you are going to get is a diff between
versions of the doc, which can probably be constructed from:<br>
<a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Graduation_Checklist" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Graduation_Checklist</a><br>
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Probably easier would be to visually compare 1.0 and 2.0, and look
for the differences. <br><div><div class="h5">
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<div>On 15/06/2014 6:43 pm, Peter Baumann
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<div>thanks for your insights, Cameron!
Indeed, adjusting to new versions binds extra resources.<br>
In that respect, may I suggest that OSGeo provides a change list
for new versions so that projects can quickly grasp what has
been altered, hence what to look at. This is common, eg, in OGC
standards updates (where I had to write the Change Notes for a
couple of specifications myself).<br>
<br>
thanks for considering,<br>
Peter<br>
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On 06/15/2014 02:03 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
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Peter,<br>
As far as I'm aware, the incubation committee has not discussed
what to do when the graduation document that a project is
working from is updated.<br>
My personal suggestion is that you keep the template you started
with, but look over the new template, and incorporate any major
things from the new template which may have been missed from the
first.<br>
<br>
Our graduation template represents a level of quality for our
OSGeo projects, and it should be expected that all projects
should meet OSGeo's current definition of quality at the time of
graduation.<br>
<br>
<div>On 14/06/2014 11:22 pm, Peter
Baumann wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Jody, Cameron, &
incubation organizers,<br>
<br>
does an incubating project need to update its documents
whenever a new version of the incubation checklist is
issued?<br>
How is this meant for graduating and graduated projects?<br>
My concern is the extra burden put on projects.<br>
<br>
thanks for your advice,<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
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On 06/14/2014 04:23 AM, <a href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>
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<div>Peter,</div>
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<div>See <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2014-May/002404.html" target="_blank">http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2014-May/002404.html</a></div>
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<div>Please use the incubation graduation checklist that I
referred to below.</div>
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<div>Bruce</div>
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