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    Jachym,<br>
    Re "3: what next after incubation": This is a hard one to maintain.
    Effort is required to continually review a project's status to see
    if it is still worthy of being an OSGeo project. To a certain
    extent, we have a bit of that in the OSGeo-Live project, in that we
    require each project to ensure their project continues to run on the
    latest OSGeo-Live release. If not, it is moved to the "
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      OSGeo-Live releases" on our contents page.<br>
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      Also a partial answer to the "star" system is to reference OpenHub
      metrics for projects, which show project activity.<br>
      See: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html">http://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html</a><br>
      Note, these are not perfect, as not all projects are represented
      correctly on OpenHub.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/03/2015 5:19 am, Jody Garnett
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      <div dir="ltr">If we could add to your list:
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        <div>4. Attract more volunteers to incubation</div>
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                  <div>--</div>
                  <div>Jody Garnett</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 11 March 2015 at 06:05, Jachym
          Cepicky <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div dir="ltr">Whatever,<br>
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              I would like to achieve:
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              <div>1 - attract more projects to osgeo umbrella</div>
              <div>2 - attract little projects to osgeo umbrella</div>
              <div>3 - define, what should happen after successful
                incubation, because I do not believe in "and lived
                happily ever after" - to become the project, certain
                level (checklist) has to be reached. But what if the
                project looses it's community?</div>
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              <div>The "still-callled-star" system I started to work on,
                was inspired by Cameron notes (just FYI)</div>
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              <div>J</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">st 11. 3. 2015 v 1:12 odesílatel
              Jody Garnett <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    <div dir="ltr">I will volunteer after foss4gna to
                      look at this.
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                      <div>I am still interested in keeping our current
                        procedure (as I think it is producing good
                        results) and relaxing the requirement for a
                        mentor (which is an embarrassing bottleneck).
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                        <div>Rather than a "star" system I think we can
                          highlight how far along in the checklist each
                          project is.</div>
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                                <div>--</div>
                                <div>Jody Garnett</div>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On 10 March 2015 at
                        16:12, Bruce Bannerman <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                <div>We need to be careful when playing
                                  around with our 'Incubation
                                  Procedure'.<br>
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                                It causes considerable angst and
                                disruption to both mentors and to the
                                relevant communities going through
                                incubation when we keep trying to change
                                to rules.<br>
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                              From my opinion as a mentor, the current
                              process while subjective in some cases is
                              still valid and effective in guiding a
                              project to the ideals that we as a
                              community aspire to.<br>
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                            <div>When a project graduates from
                              incubation, it gains considerable
                              credibility as a viable open source
                              spatial project. It is a badge of honour
                              for the project and something to aspire
                              too. So why are we trying to dilute this?<br>
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                            <div>While there are aspects that could
                              improve, what is the rationale for wanting
                              to change the process (together with the
                              inevitable disruption that follows)?<br>
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                            <div>If we are serious about changing the
                              incubation rules, then a more formal
                              methodology such as those referred to by
                              Cameron at [1] may be more appropriate.<br>
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                            <div>Now, who has the spare time to
                              investigate and drive this forward, **if
                              we deem it appropriate**.....?<br>
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                            <div>Are there any volunteers?<br>
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                            <div>Bruce<br>
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                                    [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                      <pre>I recently came across a number of "Open Source Maturity Methodologies", 
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software_assessment_methodologies" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software_assessment_methodologies</a>


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