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Hi Alvaro,<br>
I agree that it would be great to announce gvSIG's graduation from
OSGeo incubation at the gvSIG conference (on 4 Dec?), and I think it
is also achievable, but require a quick turn around. I'd like to
help you with that from the OSGeo Incubation Committee side of
things.<br>
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With regards to the question of quality of documentation of decision
making processes, I do think this is important from an incubation
perspective, and is related to having "institutionalized processes".<br>
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Refer to:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a><br>
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rgb(255, 255, 255);">A project should have institutionalized the
processes in this list or provide justification why the process is
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<dd style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Verdana, Arial,
Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">A documented process which
which addresses a need and is actively in use. It typically takes
months before a process becomes institutionalized.<br>
<i>A more detailed definition of institutionalization is found in
the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="http://www.sei.cmu.edu/library/abstracts/reports/02tr012.cfm"
style="text-decoration: none; color: rgb(102, 51, 102);">Capability
Maturity Model (CMMI)</a></i></dd>
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Warm regards, Cameron<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/10/2015 10:17 pm, Alvaro Anguix
wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Cameron,
<br>
<br>
About the documentation in Spanish/English, we are finishing the
last translations of the user and developer documentation, and
we will have the 100% of the gvSIG documentation in Spanish and
English (and in Portuguese too). We also are finishing the
migration of the old infrastructure (docs.gvsig.org) to the new
one. In any case we take all the suggestions and improvements
into account, that we will tackle as soon as possible.
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Anyway, the doubt that we have is if these suggestions are
requirements for the incubation. We understand that they aren't
requirements for the graduation, but we would like to confirm
it. Mainly because the 11th International gvSIG Conference will
be held soon, and we would like to announce the graduation
previously.
<br>
<br>
Thank you very much!<br>
<br>
Best regards,
<br>
Alvaro <br>
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El 16/10/15 a las 22:10, Cameron Shorter escribió:<br>
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Hi Alvaro,<br>
Sorry for the slow response.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your updated principles. I've just reviewed and here
is my feedback:<br>
<br>
I think that you have captured the process of making technical
decisions, which is good. However:<br>
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* The documentation is in a wiki [1], and not presented in the
same prominence as the rest of the gvsig documentation [2]. I'd
suggest that your processes should be moved out of the wiki, and
into the same doc system as the rest of the docs, probably at: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://docs.gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://docs.gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/">http://docs.gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/</a></a><something><br>
You might want to include the processes as another chapter in
the existing Developers Guide.<br>
A good example you could follow is the GeoServer docs page [3]
which includes "Policies and Procedures".<br>
<br>
* The current text reads a bit like a news article, written from
an outsider's point of view, describing how you have noticed
that decisions are made. What would be better is writing an
authoritative process which gvSig team members sometimes quote
and refer to when making decisions. A news article becomes
dated, a documented process should be useful for the community,
and will get updated over time.<br>
<br>
* The text looks like it has been written by one person, and
hasn't yet been reviewed by other core gvSig members. I'd
suggest that you'd likely get good feedback from your internal
gvSig community if you were to ask:<br>
"Does this text accurately represent how we should make
decisions in the future? Are we as a community prepared to use
this documented process as a guide for our future decisions?"<br>
<br>
* I notice that much of the gvSig documentation is written in
Spanish. I'm not sure, but it is possible you would get better
feedback from your community if this document was written first
in Spanish, and if desired, later translated to English.<br>
<br>
Sorry again for the delayed response, and also for giving you
more homework. I do encourage you to keep going because I think
it would be valuable for the gvsig community.<br>
<br>
Warm regards, Cameron<br>
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[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://redmine.gvsig.net/redmine/projects/gvsig-desktop/wiki/Wiki">https://redmine.gvsig.net/redmine/projects/gvsig-desktop/wiki/Wiki</a><br>
[2] <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://docs.gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/">http://docs.gvsig.org/web/projects/gvsig-desktop/docs/</a><br>
[3] <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://docs.geoserver.org/">http://docs.geoserver.org/</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/10/2015 7:19 am, Jody Garnett
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks Alvaro! Recovering from foss4g on this
end, thanks for updating the wiki. I believe we are getting
down to the end here, thanks for the clarifications.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 1 October 2015 at 05:37, Alvaro
Anguix <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aanguix@gvsig.com" target="_blank">aanguix@gvsig.com</a>></span>
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<br>
Apologies for the delay, but I've been in 2nd gvSIG
Conference in Peru<br>
and I couldn't update the checklist information before.<br>
Now it's updated: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Incubation_Checklist"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Incubation_Checklist</a><br>
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The principal link about technical decisions and gvSIG
organization is this:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://redmine.gvsig.net/redmine/projects/gvsig-desktop/wiki/Wiki"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://redmine.gvsig.net/redmine/projects/gvsig-desktop/wiki/Wiki</a><br>
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Best Regards,<br>
Alvaro<br>
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26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
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