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I like Andrea's approach to this question by flipping the problem.<br>
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Lets first ask: what is the value from a label such as "OSGeo
Incubated"? It is a badge of quality which new users can quickly
recognise to help select projects they might use.<br>
<br>
OSGeo-Live provides another badge of quality. OSGeo-Live guarantees
that a project has been tested and verified to work on the
OSGeo-Live linux distribution. Its main selection criteria is that
the project is stable, and the community are willing to keep it
maintained (with docs and data). OSGeo-Live's selection criteria [1]
is lower than for OSGeo Incubation, and could be integrated with a
greater OSGeo badge system.<br>
<br>
So what I believe we are looking for is a set of well defined
project qualities, with each quality earning a badge. Some of these
qualities can be automatically applied, as generated by OpenHub
metrics [2].<br>
Others could be opted into, by the project themselves, similar to
the OSGeo Advocate categories [3].<br>
And the harder, but more valued badges are those requiring a manual
testing process, as provided by the OSGeo Incubation Checklist. [4]
Note, the value and prestige of this badge is determined by the
quality insisted upon before the badge is allocated.<br>
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[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive</a><br>
[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html">http://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html</a><br>
[3]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate#Understanding_OSGeo_roles">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate#Understanding_OSGeo_roles</a><br>
[4]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/02/2016 7:42 pm, Andrea Aime
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Silly idea maybe, but what if you look at the
problem at the other way,
<div>and simply allow projects to show a logo showing they
symphatize for OSGeo,</div>
<div>and have them start incubation when they are somehow ready
to?</div>
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<div>Steal a page from OGC, one can say they are "implementing"
a standard without checks (which</div>
<div>just mean they tried, but also shows support for OGC), and
then you can go though the</div>
<div>formal process and get actually certified, if you want to.</div>
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<div>Cheers</div>
<div>Andrea</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:21 PM, Jody
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<div dir="ltr">I will point out that naming is a classic
bike shed problem. I think we should ask the projects in
"labs" and get their take on this.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I like "Innovator". What about
"Community Builder Project"?<span><font
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at 12:22 PM, Jody Garnett <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">I hear you, and you are
correct that innovation can happen
anywhere. I look forward to alternate
name suggestions. "Experiment" would
do a disservice to a completed project
that does not yet have a large/diverse
enough community to meet our
graduation requirements.
<div><br>
<div>My fellow board members were a
bit startled that our incubation
policies do inhibit the support
smaller projects, and would like
an avenue to support innovation.
It may be that both these
objectives cannot be met with the
same initiative, but I would like
to try.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 3
February 2016 at 23:47, Jeroen
Ticheler <span dir="ltr"><<a
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi
Jody,<br>
I understand the naming
confusion. The Innovator name
however has IMO a negative
reflection on the established
projects. Are new projects
necessarily more innovative
than established ones? Often
they are still so small they
don't have established
communities/structures etc in
place. That's indeed why the
Labs were created.<br>
I will think about another
potential name and I hope
others feel the same and will
also think of an alternative
naming for the Labs. I
remember you saying something
like Hatching (synonym of
incubating, so maybe to co
fusing).<br>
Maybe OSGeo Experiments.<br>
Cheers,<br>
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> Op 4 feb. 2016 om
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het volgende geschreven:<br>
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> A couple of results
for the incubation team
out of the weekend's board
meeting.<br>
><br>
> We have the
"GeoForAll Labs" and our
OSGeo labs projects - and
the two names trip on each
other.<br>
><br>
> Board members were
also a bit taken aback
that our incubation
process is not really
"welcome" to innovation
(indeed our graduation
requirements tend to
favour established
projects).<br>
><br>
> With that in mind - I
would like to kick off:<br>
><br>
> 1) Renaming OSGeo
Labs as OSGeo Innovator<br>
><br>
> The branding for this
is way better for
projects! Having an "OSGeo
Innovator" badge on your
home page is way more
"positive" an impression.<br>
><br>
> 2) Revise the
procedures around this
activity<br>
><br>
> My first take is:<br>
> - provide a home for
small project teams /
single organization
projects<br>
> - focus on new
projects (so provide
README, CONTRIBUTING, PSC
files for a project to
copy into github)<br>
> - stick to our "open
source" and "open
development" guns!<br>
> - "save the sticker"
until on-boarding is
complete<br>
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> Jody Garnett<br>
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