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Bruce-<br>
thanks a lot for driving this forward. Looking forward to advancing.<br>
-Peter<br>
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<div>Hello Colleagues,<br>
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Can I please get some indication that this motion has been
read, rather than stunned silence?<br>
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<div>It has now been over a week since I initiated this
vote. I have not seen a single reply.<br>
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How long can a motion stay open before the vote is counted? I
vaguely recall that it was two weeks.<br>
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<div>Take 2<br>
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Dear Incubation Committee,<br>
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After a long six years of effort, I'd like
to recommend that Rasdaman is ready for
graduation from the OSGeo Incubation
process.<br>
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<div>You will find the Incubation Checklist
at:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist"
target="_blank">http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist</a><br>
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<div>I believe that the Rasdaman community
have met our requirements to graduate from
incubation.<br>
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<div>I have found the community to be robust
and very active attracting contributors
from many corners of the globe.<br>
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<div>The project is attracting quite a bit
of interest, together with European Union
funding for additional development that
appears to be going into the open source
version of the product.<br>
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<div>I have also noted that Rasdaman Gmbh is
also moving some of their previously
proprietary capability into the open
source version.<br>
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<div>Peter Bauman, the man behind Rasdaman
is also making very significant and
noteworthy contributions to the world of
open spatial standards through his work
within OGC and W3C Spatial Data on the Web
Working Group. Rasdaman is an OGC
Reference implementation of several WCS
related standards from memory.<br>
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<div>I do have a reservation though:<br>
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<div>While I see that Rasdaman is meeting
the requirements of the OSGeo Incubation
process, I do feel that it is not meeting
the spirit of Incubation.<br>
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<div>As an example control of the project is
still tightly controlled around Rasdaman
GMbh:<br>
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- Two of the three members of the Rasdaman
PSC are members of Rasdaman Gmbh;<br>
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<div>- Project technical design and
strategic directions are tightly
controlled and do not appear to be openly
discussed on public emailing lists. Things
'just happen'; and<br>
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<div>- The Rasdaman-PSC email list contains
no emails [1].<br>
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<div>I do know of one or two attempts to try
to get public discussion going about
strategic technical direction, however I
did not see much activity related to it.
This is probably symptomatic of the lack
of a serious attempt at community
consultation on strategic and technical
design issues to date.<br>
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<div>My advice to the Rasdaman Community is
that for you to truly thrive as an open
source community, you will need to look
closely at this issue and address it
proactively. It is your project! <br>
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<div>Bruce Bannerman<br>
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<div>OSGeo Mentor for Rasdaman<br>
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[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rasdaman-psc</a>
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The checklist (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist"
target="_blank">http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist</a>)
seems complete. The last communication
from Bruce was also positive, but did
not elicit a response from this mailing
list.<br>
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I recommend Bruce invite
discussion/review of checklist and prep
a recommendation for graduation (if he
is comfortable doing so at this time).<br>
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--<br>
Jody Garnett<br>
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On 21 April 2016 at 00:55, Peter Baumann
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de"
target="_blank">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a>>
wrote:<br>
Dear all,<br>
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just a brief question, what are the
plans about rasdaman incubation?<br>
Last communication was 7 months ago, and
this April we had our 6th anniversary<br>
of entering incubation.<br>
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thanks for sharing your thoughts,<br>
Peter<br>
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--<br>
Dr. Peter Baumann<br>
- Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs
University Bremen<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann"
target="_blank">www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann</a><br>
mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de"
target="_blank">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a><br>
tel: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B49-421-200-3178"
value="+494212003178" target="_blank">+49-421-200-3178</a>,
fax: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B49-421-200-493178"
value="+49421200493178"
target="_blank">+49-421-200-493178</a><br>
- Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH
Bremen (HRB 26793)<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rasdaman.com"
target="_blank">www.rasdaman.com</a>,
mail: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com"
target="_blank">baumann@rasdaman.com</a><br>
tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax:
0800-rasdafax, mobile: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B49-173-5837882"
value="+491735837882" target="_blank">+49-173-5837882</a><br>
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hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis
dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut
ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec
preripiat quisquam non sibi parata."
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Dr. Peter Baumann
- Professor of Computer Science, Jacobs University Bremen
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann">www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann</a>
mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a>
tel: +49-421-200-3178, fax: +49-421-200-493178
- Executive Director, rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB 26793)
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rasdaman.com">www.rasdaman.com</a>, mail: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com">baumann@rasdaman.com</a>
tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax: 0800-rasdafax, mobile: +49-173-5837882
"Si forte in alienas manus oberraverit hec peregrina epistola incertis ventis dimissa, sed Deo commendata, precamur ut ei reddatur cui soli destinata, nec preripiat quisquam non sibi parata." (mail disclaimer, AD 1083)
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