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-1 on rasdaman incubation until the Governance question is resolved,
which is a bigger question than just rasdaman, and I'm expecting
will take a number of weeks to resolve. Cameron<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/05/2016 2:36 pm, Jody Garnett
wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAOhbgAmpJuoC9XfkiUcHXi_ayj=3Hwvbp6Qon4tLUMfDqNyGDw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">-1 but in the PSC sense where I will work to find a
solution. <br>
<br>
We the incubation cannot relax this core tenant of our foundation
(it is in our objectives as an organization). But I will ask the
board to consider the idea in the next board meeting.<br>
<br>
Can I kindly suggest that the project request to be listed as a
community project while this is looked at.<br>
<br>
I am a bit disappointed to be at this impasse, but thank everyone
involved for the clear and polite communication. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 6:45 PM Bruce Bannerman
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>+1<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Bruce</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:44 AM,
Bruce Bannerman <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear Incubation Committee,<br>
<br>
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We have two days left to vote on this motion.
<br>
<br>
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<div>There has been sufficient discussion to
thrash out the issues.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
Given the nature of the vote and the six years
of effort that the Rasdaman Community have put
into meeting OSGeo Incubation requirements, I
would like to see a strong indication of
Committee Member's views on this issue. <br>
<br>
I personally don't believe that there is room
for Committee Members to sit on the fence and
not make a call on this.<br>
<br>
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Remember, we are making a recommendation to the
OSGeo Board.<br>
<br>
The Board will have the final decision.<br>
<br>
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<pre>We have the following response after twelve days of voting:
- Bruce Bannerman
- Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques
- Landon Blake
- Howard Butler
- Arnulf Christl
- Jody Garnett
- Dimitris Kotzinos
- Tom Kralidis
- Julien-Samuel Lacroix
- Mark Lucas
- Steve Lime
- Daniel Morissette
- Markus Schneider
- Cameron Shorter
- Jeroen Ticheler
- Norman Vine
- Frank Warmerdam
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<pre>Regards,
</pre>
<span><br>
<div>Bruce Bannerman<br>
</div>
<div>OSGeo Mentor for Rasdaman<br>
</div>
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Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Bruce
Bannerman</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com">bruce.bannerman.osgeo@gmail.com</a></a>></span><br>
Date: Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 9:11 AM<br>
Subject: Motion: Rasdaman ready to
graduate from OSGeo Incubation<br>
To: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
target="_blank">Incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:incubator@lists.osgeo.org"
target="_blank">incubator@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
Cc: "<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rasdaman-users@googlegroups.com"
target="_blank">rasdaman-users@googlegroups.com</a>>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rasdaman-users@googlegroups.com"
target="_blank">rasdaman-users@googlegroups.com</a>>,
"<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com"
target="_blank">rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com</a>>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com"
target="_blank">rasdaman-dev@googlegroups.com</a>><br>
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<div>Take 2<br>
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Dear Incubation Committee,<br>
<div>
<div><br>
After a long six years of
effort, I'd like to recommend
that Rasdaman is ready for
graduation from the OSGeo
Incubation process.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>You will find the
Incubation Checklist at:<br>
<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist"
target="_blank">http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist</a><br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I believe that the Rasdaman
community have met our
requirements to graduate from
incubation.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I have found the community
to be robust and very active
attracting contributors from
many corners of the globe.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>The project is attracting
quite a bit of interest,
together with European Union
funding for additional
development that appears to be
going into the open source
version of the product.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I have also noted that
Rasdaman Gmbh is also moving
some of their previously
proprietary capability into
the open source version.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Peter Bauman, the man
behind Rasdaman is also making
very significant and
noteworthy contributions to
the world of open spatial
standards through his work
within OGC and W3C Spatial
Data on the Web Working Group.
Rasdaman is an OGC Reference
implementation of several WCS
related standards from memory.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I do have a reservation
though:<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>While I see that Rasdaman
is meeting the requirements of
the OSGeo Incubation process,
I do feel that it is not
meeting the spirit of
Incubation.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>As an example control of
the project is still tightly
controlled around Rasdaman
GMbh:<br>
<br>
- Two of the three members of
the Rasdaman PSC are members
of Rasdaman Gmbh;<br>
</div>
<div>- Project technical design
and strategic directions are
tightly controlled and do not
appear to be openly discussed
on public emailing lists.
Things 'just happen'; and<br>
</div>
<div>- The Rasdaman-PSC email
list contains no emails [1].<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I do know of one or two
attempts to try to get public
discussion going about
strategic technical direction,
however I did not see much
activity related to it. This
is probably symptomatic of the
lack of a serious attempt at
community consultation on
strategic and technical design
issues to date.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>My advice to the Rasdaman
Community is that for you to
truly thrive as an open source
community, you will need to
look closely at this issue and
address it proactively. It is
your project! <br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Bruce Bannerman<br>
</div>
<div>OSGeo Mentor for Rasdaman<br>
</div>
<div><br>
[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21forum/rasdaman-psc"
target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rasdaman-psc</a>
<br>
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<div><br>
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The checklist (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist">http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeoIncubationChecklist</a></a>)
seems complete. The last
communication from Bruce was
also positive, but did not
elicit a response from this
mailing list.<br>
<br>
I recommend Bruce invite
discussion/review of
checklist and prep a
recommendation for
graduation (if he is
comfortable doing so at this
time).<br>
<br>
--<br>
Jody Garnett<br>
<br>
On 21 April 2016 at 00:55,
Peter Baumann <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a></a>>
wrote:<br>
Dear all,<br>
<br>
just a brief question, what
are the plans about rasdaman
incubation?<br>
Last communication was 7
months ago, and this April
we had our 6th anniversary<br>
of entering incubation.<br>
<br>
thanks for sharing your
thoughts,<br>
Peter<br>
<br>
--<br>
Dr. Peter Baumann<br>
- Professor of Computer
Science, Jacobs University
Bremen<br>
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann">www.faculty.jacobs-university.de/pbaumann</a></a><br>
mail: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:p.baumann@jacobs-university.de">p.baumann@jacobs-university.de</a></a><br>
tel: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B49-421-200-3178"
value="+494212003178"
target="_blank">+49-421-200-3178</a>,
fax: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B49-421-200-493178"
value="+49421200493178"
target="_blank">+49-421-200-493178</a><br>
- Executive Director,
rasdaman GmbH Bremen (HRB
26793)<br>
<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.rasdaman.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.rasdaman.com">www.rasdaman.com</a></a>,
mail: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:baumann@rasdaman.com">baumann@rasdaman.com</a></a><br>
tel: 0800-rasdaman, fax:
0800-rasdafax, mobile: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B49-173-5837882"
value="+491735837882"
target="_blank">+49-173-5837882</a><br>
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