<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Cameron,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I have followed your advice there :<br><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Proj4php_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Proj4php_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist</a><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">And I will evaluate the impact for the 3.0 draft of the incubation checklist you tells us about.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">We got some homework now !<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I will begin to add what is missing in our bug tracker.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Eventhough, I don't know if we really need a mailing list, because we got an issue tracker already. What do you think of ?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Regards,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Julien.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">P.S.: let me introduce you Nick B. in carbon copy.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 20 juil. 2016 10:29 PM, "Cameron Shorter" <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Julien,</p>
    <p>You might want to look at the OSGeo-Live incubation page we have
      set up:</p>
    <p><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist</a></p>
    <p>The OSGeo-Live project is not officially "in incubation", but
      that hasn't stopped us from working on addressing the incubation
      steps and answering the questions.</p>
    <p>Addressing these steps ensures that you are building a strong
      community project.</p>
    <p>You might also want to have a look at a proposed next version of
      the checklist:</p>
    <p><a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Graduation_Checklist" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Graduation_Checklist</a><br>
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    <div>On 20/07/2016 8:25 AM, Julien Moquet
      wrote:<br>
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          <div>Hi Cameron,<br>
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          <div>Thank you for your answer.<br>
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          I am totally agree, proj4php is a bit young (even after 7
          years !).<br>
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        <div>But somes continue to get interested on it.<br>
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        <div>I am going to complete proj4php strategy to match your
          checklist !<br>
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        <div>And as Jody tolds me, a first step will be to became a
          community project.<br>
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        <div>I will keep incubator lists in touch.<br>
          <br>
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        <div>Regards,<br>
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        <div>Julien.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2016-07-19 22:28 GMT+02:00 Cameron
          Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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              <p>Hi Julian,</p>
              <p>It sounds like proj4php has good foundations, and would
                be a candidate for being an OSGeo project in a few
                years, but is still a bit young to be ready for OSGeo
                Incubation.</p>
              <p>I suggest a better checklist to look at is the OSGeo
                Graduation Checklist. This is what you would be aiming
                for if you wished to complete graduation.</p>
              <p><a href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html</a><br>
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              <p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
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                  <div>On 19/07/2016 6:40 AM, Julien Moquet wrote:<br>
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                          <div>Hi Jody,<br>
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                          <div>I really appreciate your help !<br>
                            <br>
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                          However, it depends on what a mentor should be
                          ! Does an osgeo member can be a mentor ?<br>
                          I eventually know Thomas Bonfort by the past.
                          He is a committer and PSC member of MapServer.
                          I am going to ask him.<br>
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                        <div>By the way, I am starting to make proj4php
                          as a community project !<br>
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                        Regards,<br>
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                      Julien.<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">2016-07-18 3:21 GMT+02:00
                        Jody Garnett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                            <div>Thanks Julien - have been collecting
                              some applications on the osgeo issue
                              tracker for incubation. Curently it can be
                              tricky to find a mentor for new projects
                              (or in this case new to OSGeo proejcts) -
                              did you have a mentor in mind?</div>
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                            <div>I would encourage you to apply as an
                              OSGeo "<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects" target="_blank">community project</a>" -
                              it is a faster way to be included in OSGeo
                              (as it does not require finding a suitable
                              mentor</div>
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                            <div>Aside: We really should revise this
                              list of application questions - thinks
                              like the question on "infrastructure" was
                              from the time when OSGeo svn was
                              considered more cool then source forge CVS
                              for version control.</div>
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                                      <div>Jody Garnett</div>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On 16 July 2016
                                  at 05:33, Julien Moquet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:moquet.julien@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:moquet.julien@gmail.com" target="_blank">moquet.julien@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                                        <div>Dear OSGeo members, Mr
                                          Garnett,<br>
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                                        <div>As you may know, proj4php
                                          is an open source project,
                                          started in 2009, and recently
                                          hosted on github : <a href="https://github.com/proj4php/proj4php" target="_blank"></a><a href="https://github.com/proj4php/proj4php" target="_blank">https://github.com/proj4php/proj4php</a><br>
                                          This is not a huge project,
                                          but we got a tiny community to
                                          be grown. <br>
                                          <br>
                                          In order to describe our
                                          project, here is answers for
                                          questions from this page :<br>
                                          <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/application.html" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/application.html</a><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div> > Please describe your
                                          Project. <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Proj4php is a php library
                                          for geographic coordinates
                                          transformation using proj4
                                          definitions</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > Why is hosting at OSGeo
                                          good for your project? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Most of library using proj4
                                          definitions are hosted at
                                          OSGeo. It gives the project
                                          more sens for the users, and
                                          more visibility.<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > Type of application does
                                          this project represent(client,
                                          server, standalone, library,
                                          etc.): <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>library<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > Please describe any
                                          relationships to other open
                                          source projects. <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><a href="http://spatialreference.org" target="_blank">spatialreference.org</a>
                                          as a source of defs<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > Please describe any
                                          relationships with commercial
                                          companies or products. <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>nop<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > Which open source
                                          license(s) will the source
                                          code be released under? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>LGPL 2<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > Is there already a beta
                                          or official release? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>The 1.0 stands for old
                                          releases (php under 5.2), and
                                          the 2.0 releases are the
                                          latests.<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > What is the origin of
                                          your project (commercial,
                                          experimental, thesis or other
                                          higher education, government,
                                          or some other source)? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Proj4php gets its origin as
                                          I was stuck on delay on a php
                                          project with strong hosting
                                          constraints. I translated
                                          proj4js in php, and set its
                                          source code open the same
                                          night.<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Then a little community
                                          started to grow. Winne27,
                                          nickolanack, judgej made real
                                          good work on proj4php to
                                          develop it and help others to
                                          use it. <br>
                                          <br>
                                          > Does the project support
                                          open standards? Which ones and
                                          to what extent? (OGC, w3c,
                                          ect.) <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>nop<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > Has the software been
                                          certified to any standard
                                          (CITE for example)? If not, is
                                          it the intention of the
                                          project owners to seek
                                          certification at some point? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>nop<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > Is the code free of
                                          patents, trademarks, and do
                                          you control the copyright? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>yes<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > How many people actively
                                          contribute (code,
                                          documentation, other?) to the
                                          project at this time? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>We are 3 people to help
                                          others to fix their problems
                                          or answering questions on
                                          proj4php.<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > How many people have
                                          commit access to the source
                                          code respository? <br>
                                          <br>
                                          4<br>
                                          <br>
                                          > Approximately how many
                                          users are currently using this
                                          project? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Github tells there is 48
                                          unique cloners the last 14
                                          days, and we got about 1800
                                          downloads the last 30 days on
                                          packagist.<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > What type of users does
                                          your project attract
                                          (government, commercial,
                                          hobby, academic research, etc.
                                          )? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>I don't know<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > If you do not intend to
                                          host any portion of this
                                          project using the OSGeo
                                          infrastructure, why should you
                                          be considered a member project
                                          of the OSGeo Foundation? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>I don't understand the
                                          question !<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > Does the project include
                                          an automated build and test? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Yes, we use Travis<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > What language(s) are used
                                          in this project?
                                          (C/Java/perl/etc) <br>
                                          <br>
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                                        <div>PHP<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > What is the dominant
                                          written language (i.e.
                                          English, French, Spanish,
                                          German, etc) of the core
                                          developers? <br>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>English, but I am
                                          personally French<br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          > What is the (estimated)
                                          size of a full release of this
                                          project? How many users do you
                                          expect to download the project
                                          when it is released? <br>
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                                        <div>about 200 ko ?<br>
                                        </div>
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                                        Regards,<br>
                                      </div>
                                      Julien Moquet<br>
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