<div dir="ltr">On 7 July 2017 at 12:39, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Thanks Jody for your offer to mentor. After our next release, I
      expect we will reach out to you about this.</p></div></blockquote><div>Good good, release comes first. </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <p>I like your diagram. Are you in a position to accept review
      comments? (I reckon I can help make the words more concise).<br></p></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>LOL - of course you can, and you already had a crack at this content (it was one of the google docs you reviewed). I am happy to revise for the next printing, but this text was sent to the printer yesterday. </div><div><br></div><div>I would not mind having an incubation meeting in July or August to review how we present ourselves on the new website.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>
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    <div class="gmail-m_7350247312476760569moz-cite-prefix">On 8/7/17 5:25 am, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
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          <div>This diagram groupsincubation checklist into three
            priorities: technical, social and fair. I would be happy to
            include this diagram, customized for each project, to
            illustrate level of maturity of community projects.</div>
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          <div>I am a prior contributor to osgeo-live but am not
            currently active; I would be happy to volunteer as mentor
            (it would be about the easiest project to mentor ever -
            being well used to our culture and expectations).</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 7 July 2017 at 11:53, Cameron
          Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>
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              <p>Hi Vicky,</p>
              <p>I've put together the OSGeo-Live incubation checklist
                [1].  which shows OSGeo-Live as being very close to
                being ready for incubation. A concerted short burst of
                energy should get it across the line. I suggest we
                discuss it when we have more time after our 11.0
                release.<br>
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              <p>We don't have an incubation mentor at the moment, but
                am confident we should be able to find one when needed.
                (I've been an incubation mentor, but there would be a
                conflict of interest having me on the OSGeo-Live PSC and
                also being a mentor).</p>
              <p>Jody, I'm uncomfortable advertising OSGeo-Live as an
                "OSGeo Community" project. I feel it implies a level of
                immaturity, while OSGeo-Live is very mature.<br>
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              Cheers, Cameron
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Ok,
                        ignoring "odd" website I looked around, and
                        found this:<br>
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                        <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/query?status=assigned&status=closed&status=new&status=reopened&component=Incubator&order=priority" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/q<wbr>uery?status=assigned&status=cl<wbr>osed&status=new&status=reopene<wbr>d&component=Incubator&order=<wbr>priority</a><br>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I
                        don't see OSGeolive  there. So it might not be
                        incubating.<br>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">so,
                        it might not have a mentor.<br>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Not
                        ignoring the "odd" website, and also because of
                        your comment, it is not in community project.<br>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I
                        had to look for definition of "advocacy": <span>public
                          support for or recommendation of a particular
                          cause or policy.<br>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span>My
                          guess is that you say that Its advocacy tool
                          because the projects it includes are
                          implicitly recommended.<br>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">So,
                        for me it looks like it is in the limbo.<br>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I
                        thank you for your response, I will mention
                        about the community project application.<br>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Vicky<br>
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                      <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">PS<br>
                        I could not find a page about community
                        projects, or how to apply, but the website is
                        being redone. Every one is in a rush because the
                        FOSS4G Boston, So, I'll postpone asking the
                        question of "where is the page about the
                        application for community project?" for after
                        Boston.<br>
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                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at
                        2:18 AM, Jody Garnett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                            <div>Thanks for stepping up to the OSGeo
                              Live PSC - congrats!</div>
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                            <div>OSGeo Live is a perfectly normal
                              project and totally able to go through
                              incubation.</div>
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                            <div>What you are seeing on the website is
                              "odd" - it is odd because the website is
                              grouping software together by category
                              (like web mapping or desktop software).
                              The OSGeo Live project is not one of those
                              things, instead it is a advocacy tool -
                              used by OSGeo as an organization to
                              introduce people to all that is great
                              about open source .... so "out reach".<br>
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                            <div><br>
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                            <div>The categories on the website have
                              nothing to do with incubation; and since
                              the website is being replaced we will have
                              new categories shortly.</div>
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                            <div>I cannot remember if OSGeo Live has
                              applied for the incubation process; who is
                              your mentor? Normally a mentor joins your
                              team as a guest to answer any questions
                              (like this one) that comes up. The reason
                              we join your team is so we can answer
                              questions on your email list where all
                              your committers can see the discussion and
                              understand what they are getting into as
                              part of OSGeo.</div>
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                            <div><b>aside: </b>Although I am not sure
                              if OSGeo Live is in incubation - I would
                              really like it if you could apply to be a
                              "Community Project" (you have to open
                              source, open to contributions and
                              geospatial).</div>
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                                  4 July 2017 at 09:37, Vicky Vergara <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vicky@georepublic.de" target="_blank">vicky@georepublic.de</a>></span>
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                                        <div>​Hello
                                          Incubating list,<br>
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                                        <div>​I am a
                                          new as PSC member of a
                                          OSGeoLive that is in the
                                          outreach category project.<br>
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                                        <div>​I must
                                          confess that its the first
                                          time as PSC and I am also new
                                          in the project​.<br>
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                                        <div>I don't
                                          understand the "outreach"
                                          category.<br>
                                          I want to know if an "outreach
                                          "project can eventually be
                                          incubated.<br>
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                                        <div>I ask
                                          because I am reading this
                                          questionnaire [1], but the
                                          project is not on the
                                          incubation list.<br>
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                                          [1] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Li<wbr>ve_GIS_Incubation_Graduation_C<wbr>hecklist</a><br>
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                                        <div>​Thanks​</div>
                                        <div>​Vicky​</div>
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                                                          <pre>Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
Salzmannstraße 44, 
81739 München, Germany

Vicky Vergara
Operations Research

eMail: vicky@<a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">georepublic.de</a>
Web: <a href="https://georepublic.info" target="_blank">https://georepublic.info</a>

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                                                          <pre>Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
Salzmannstraße 44, 
81739 München, Germany

Vicky Vergara
Operations Research

eMail: vicky@<a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">georepublic.de</a>
Web: <a href="https://georepublic.info" target="_blank">https://georepublic.info</a>

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