<div dir="ltr">I understand cameron, if I can invite you to view the following diagram:<div><br></div><div><img><a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B022m344wU7hMVdqYWppc1d3QVE/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B022m344wU7hMVdqYWppc1d3QVE/view?usp=sharing</a><div><br></div><div>This diagram groupsincubation checklist into three priorities: technical, social and fair. I would be happy to include this diagram, customized for each project, to illustrate level of maturity of community projects.</div><div><br></div><div>I am a prior contributor to osgeo-live but am not currently active; I would be happy to volunteer as mentor (it would be about the easiest project to mentor ever - being well used to our culture and expectations).</div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 July 2017 at 11:53, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Vicky,</p>
    <p>I've put together the OSGeo-Live incubation checklist [1].  which
      shows OSGeo-Live as being very close to being ready for
      incubation. A concerted short burst of energy should get it across
      the line. I suggest we discuss it when we have more time after our
      11.0 release.<br>
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    <p>We don't have an incubation mentor at the moment, but am
      confident we should be able to find one when needed. (I've been an
      incubation mentor, but there would be a conflict of interest
      having me on the OSGeo-Live PSC and also being a mentor).</p>
    <p>Jody, I'm uncomfortable advertising OSGeo-Live as an "OSGeo
      Community" project. I feel it implies a level of immaturity, while
      OSGeo-Live is very mature.<br>
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    Cheers, Cameron<div><div class="h5"><br>
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    <div class="m_2220329372733545822moz-cite-prefix">On 6/7/17 3:54 am, Vicky Vergara wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hi<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Ok, ignoring
          "odd" website I looked around, and found this:<br>
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          <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/query?status=assigned&status=closed&status=new&status=reopened&component=Incubator&order=priority" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/<wbr>query?status=assigned&status=<wbr>closed&status=new&status=<wbr>reopened&component=Incubator&<wbr>order=priority</a><br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I don't see
          OSGeolive  there. So it might not be incubating.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">so, it might
          not have a mentor.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Not ignoring
          the "odd" website, and also because of your comment, it is not
          in community project.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I had to look
          for definition of "advocacy": <span>public support for or
            recommendation of a particular cause or policy.<br>
          </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span>My guess
            is that you say that Its advocacy tool because the projects
            it includes are implicitly recommended.<br>
          </span></div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">So, for me it
          looks like it is in the limbo.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I thank you for
          your response, I will mention about the community project
          application.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Vicky<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">PS<br>
          I could not find a page about community projects, or how to
          apply, but the website is being redone. Every one is in a rush
          because the FOSS4G Boston, So, I'll postpone asking the
          question of "where is the page about the application for
          community project?" for after Boston.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Jody
          Garnett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">Hey Vicky:
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              <div>Thanks for stepping up to the OSGeo Live PSC -
                congrats!</div>
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              <div>OSGeo Live is a perfectly normal project and totally
                able to go through incubation.</div>
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              <div>What you are seeing on the website is "odd" - it is
                odd because the website is grouping software together by
                category (like web mapping or desktop software). The
                OSGeo Live project is not one of those things, instead
                it is a advocacy tool - used by OSGeo as an organization
                to introduce people to all that is great about open
                source .... so "out reach".<br>
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              <div><br>
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              <div>The categories on the website have nothing to do with
                incubation; and since the website is being replaced we
                will have new categories shortly.</div>
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              <div>I cannot remember if OSGeo Live has applied for the
                incubation process; who is your mentor? Normally a
                mentor joins your team as a guest to answer any
                questions (like this one) that comes up. The reason we
                join your team is so we can answer questions on your
                email list where all your committers can see the
                discussion and understand what they are getting into as
                part of OSGeo.</div>
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              <div><b>aside: </b>Although I am not sure if OSGeo Live
                is in incubation - I would really like it if you could
                apply to be a "Community Project" (you have to open
                source, open to contributions and geospatial).</div>
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                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">​Hello Incubating
                            list,<br>
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                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">​I am a new as PSC
                            member of a OSGeoLive that is in the
                            outreach category project.<br>
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                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">​I must confess that
                            its the first time as PSC and I am also new
                            in the project​.<br>
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                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">I don't understand the
                            "outreach" category.<br>
                            I want to know if an "outreach "project can
                            eventually be incubated.<br>
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                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">I ask because I am
                            reading this questionnaire [1], but the
                            project is not on the incubation list.<br>
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                            [1] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Incubation_Graduation_Checklist" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Li<wbr>ve_GIS_Incubation_Graduation_C<wbr>hecklist</a><br>
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                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">​​</div>
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                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">​Thanks​</div>
                          <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">​Vicky​</div>
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Vicky Vergara
Operations Research

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Vicky Vergara
Operations Research

eMail: vicky@<a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">georepublic.de</a>
Web: <a href="https://georepublic.info" target="_blank">https://georepublic.info</a>

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