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    <p>Hi Jo,</p>
    <p>I'm really excited to see you pushing Portable GIS forward. I
      think that having a windows based OSGeo distribution is a great
      complement to OSGeo-Live, as OSGeo-Live is tied into (and limited
      to) being a linux distribution.</p>
    <p>I also see potential for collaboration between OSGeo-Live and
      Portable GIS. Eg, the OSGeo-Live Project Overviews could note
      whether the project is available on Portable GIS.</p>
    <p>We could also potentially align OSGeo-Live and Portable GIS
      release schedules (which would help with aligning documentation).
      <br>
    </p>
    <p>Re packaging, have you considered building with cygwin (which is
      Open Source)?</p>
    <p>I'm happy to answer questions about license. While I'm not a
      lawyer, I have been involved in plenty of licensing selection
      discussions, including for OSGeo-Live.</p>
    <p>Re Portable GIS licensing, I assume your build tools are not
      embedded in the final Portable GIS software distribution? That
      would mean that the final software distribution does not inherit
      to the license of the build tools. So I suspect you should be ok
      to select what ever license you choose for the build tools. That
      is how we have approached the OSGeo-Live build scripts, which are
      LGPL. (Documentation is licensed under CC-By for Project Overviews
      and CC-By-SA for Quickstarts).</p>
    <p>Warm regards, Cameron<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 24/8/17 1:22 am, Jo Cook wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Jody and list,
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        <div>Having had a bit of a think about licensing, I had
          previously chosen GPLv3 *for my components alone* and I think
          I'm happy with that. As far as I can tell, I can license my
          modifications alone with GPLv3 regardless of what the software
          projects themselves are. I've had a look at how OSGeo Live
          works, but that doesn't help much (<a
            href="https://live.osgeo.org/en/copyright.html"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://live.osgeo.org/en/<wbr>copyright.html</a>).
          Is there anyone on the list who could help me out with this-
          basically to confirm or deny?</div>
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        <div>Thanks</div>
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        <div>Jo</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Jo
          Cook <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:jocook@astuntechnology.com" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">jocook@astuntechnology.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Hi Jody,
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              <div>That all sounds really encouraging and yes I'd be
                happy to go through the process with you and the team.
                We (Astun) potentially have another project that we'd
                like to submit for consideration too, and I'll be in
                touch separately about that one.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Regarding autoit, no you don't need to purchase
                anything to use it. Having thought about this in some
                more detail, I think I will try to move away from that
                dependency and try to find an open source alternative
                but that will obviously take some time to work through,
                so it would be good if we could start working through
                the process of becoming a community project while that
                is ongoing.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>I'll make some tweaks to the repository to make sure
                that the various docs are easy to find, and then maybe
                come back to you when that's ready. I want to think a
                little about whether I'm using the most appropriate
                license too.</div>
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              <div>Regards</div>
              <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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                  <div>Jo</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:12
                    PM, Jody Garnett <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Glad to hear from you Jo!
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Although the "OSGeo community" initiative
                          was started last year, we have not had a
                          chance to try it out yet (perhaps due to lack
                          of publicity). If you are patient with us we
                          would enjoy going through this process with
                          you, and revising our notes as we go.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>The wiki <a
                            href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">OSGeo
                            Community Projects</a> page has the
                          following recipe:</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p style="margin:0.5em
0px;line-height:inherit;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">If
                            your project would like to join OSGeo the
                            technology initiative asks:</p>
                          <ol style="margin:0.3em 0px 0px
3.2em;padding:0px;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">
                            <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">That your
                              project is geospatial (or directly
                              supports geospatial applications);
                              <ul
                                style="list-style-type:disc;margin:0.3em
                                0px 0px 1.6em;padding:0px">
                                <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Data
                                  & doc projects would of course
                                  need an appropriate data or
                                  documentation license</li>
                              </ul>
                            </li>
                            <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">That your
                              project is open source
                              <ul
                                style="list-style-type:disc;margin:0.3em
                                0px 0px 1.6em;padding:0px">
                                <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Uses an
                                  OSI approved open source license</li>
                                <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">That you
                                  know where your source code came from,
                                  and that care is taken when accepting
                                  external contributions</li>
                              </ul>
                            </li>
                            <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Participatory
                              (accepts pull-requests)</li>
                          </ol>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Along with a few notes on how we can
                          quickly check the LICENSE, CONTRIBUTING,
                          README files.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><span
                            style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><b>autoit</b></span><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Your question about <span
                            style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">autoit
                            is tricky, it is freely distributable - so
                            not a barrier to use. We are actually in a
                            similar spot for the GeoTools and GeoServer
                            projects. When they were first created Java
                            was not open source so there were some very
                            heated discussions with the gvSig team on if
                            you could ever make a free software solution
                            using Java.</span></div>
                        <div><span
                            style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><br>
                          </span></div>
                        <div><span
                            style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">But
                            we are an open source software foundation
                            (not at a free software foundation) allowing
                            GeoTools, GeoServer .. and by
                            extension autoit.</span></div>
                        <div><span
                            style="font-size:12.800000190734863px"><br>
                          </span></div>
                        <div><span
                            style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">This
                            question of Java still troubles us, while
                            Java is now open source, the image
                            processing library that was included in Java
                            is still only free to distribute. This
                            causes problems for the OSGeo Live and uDig
                            projects.</span></div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>I would be concerned though if people need
                          to purchase autoit in order to work on your
                          project? There is a slight difference between
                          being required to purchase a tool, and
                          optionally using a tool. For GeoTools we can
                          "work with" the Oracle Database (if user
                          installs the right jars they have downloaded
                          from Oracle) or ArcSDE (if the user installs
                          the right jars they have purchased from ESRI).
                          However if a contributor is not in possession
                          of these artifacts they can still work on the
                          project as a whole.</div>
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                                  <div>Jody Garnett</div>
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                              August 2017 at 06:25, Jo Cook <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a
                                  href="mailto:jocook@astuntechnology.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jocook@astuntechnology.com</a>></span>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Hi Incubator List,
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>As you may or may not know, I
                                    have been running a small project
                                    called Portable GIS (GIS on a USB
                                    stick for Windows) for a number of
                                    years. The basic premise is to
                                    provide a no-install, no-config
                                    version of many of the common open
                                    source GIS projects on a USB stick. </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Recently I built a website for
                                    the project (<a
                                      href="http://portablegis.xyz"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">portablegis.xyz</a>)
                                    and I'm working through the process
                                    of documenting and publishing all
                                    the configuration changes that need
                                    to be made to make projects portable
                                    (mainly batch files to be honest).
                                    This also includes the source code
                                    for building the menu and installer
                                    files. </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>This is on Gitlab at <a
                                      href="https://gitlab.com/archaeogeek/portable-gis"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://gitlab.com/archaeog<wbr>eek/portable-gis</a>
                                    so that I can now start accepting
                                    contributions. Note that this
                                    repository does not contain the
                                    actual source code for the projects
                                    such as QGIS, it just contains the
                                    files that need to be adjusted to
                                    make it work portably.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>One of my colleagues has
                                    suggested that Portable GIS could be
                                    an OSGeo Community Project, so here
                                    I am, asking about it :-)</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>My main concern is that autoit,
                                    which I used for building the menu,
                                    is freeware rather than opensource
                                    (see <a
                                      href="https://www.autoitscript.com/site/"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.autoitscript.<wbr>com/site/</a>
                                    and specifically <a
                                      href="https://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/docs/license.htm"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.autoitscript.com/a<wbr>utoit3/docs/license.htm</a>).
                                    My gut feeling is that this bars
                                    Portable GIS from being truly open
                                    source, and hence not suitable for
                                    being an OSGeo Community Project.
                                    Would that be correct?</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>If this was the only bar to
                                    entry, I could certainly look at
                                    alternative options for building the
                                    menu.</div>
                                  <div><br>
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                                  <div>Regards</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Jo</div>
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