<div dir="ltr">Hi All,<div><br></div><div>I've added a contributing guidelines page and moved the license and changelog to the root of the portable gis repository at <a href="https://gitlab.com/archaeogeek/portable-gis">https://gitlab.com/archaeogeek/portable-gis</a>. Does it all look OK?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks to everyone who has offered to assist with Portable GIS- it's really appreciated.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>Jo</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Landon Blake <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sunburned.surveyor@gmail.com" target="_blank">sunburned.surveyor@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>If I can help Jo with set-up as a community project, let me know. I'm a Windows user...so I can help with the testing of releases. I'd also be interested in learning more about how this works. :]<br><br></div>Landon<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:26 AM, Jo Cook <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jocook@astuntechnology.com" target="_blank">jocook@astuntechnology.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Jeff,<div><br></div><div>There's no relationship as such between Portable GIS and OSGeo4W- they are really complimentary projects with different objectives. The way I see it, Portable GIS provides a portable (hence the name) set of open source geospatial tools that don't require installation and can be taken from windows computer to windows computer on a USB stick,compared to OSGeo4W, which provides a streamlined way of installing the tools on a machine. They have some packages in common, but not all (I include PostgreSQL/PostGIS and GeoServer alongside QGIS, Mapserver etc, but otherwise a much more limited set of tools than OSGeo4W due to space considerations).</div><div><br></div><div>When OSGeo4W first came out (believe it or not, Portable GIS predates it) there was some discussion about the possible relationship between the two packages at that point, but like I say, they have different objectives and exist in harmony together. </div><div><br></div><div>Hope that clears things up- I'll add some disambiguation to the readme and website next time I do an update!</div><span class="m_5700864333159717691HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Jo</div></font></span></div><div class="m_5700864333159717691HOEnZb"><div class="m_5700864333159717691h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Jeffrey Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ortelius@gmail.com" target="_blank">ortelius@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just curious about the relationship to osgeo4w<br>
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On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Cameron Shorter<br>
<<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Jo,<br>
><br>
> I'm really excited to see you pushing Portable GIS forward. I think that<br>
> having a windows based OSGeo distribution is a great complement to<br>
> OSGeo-Live, as OSGeo-Live is tied into (and limited to) being a linux<br>
> distribution.<br>
><br>
> I also see potential for collaboration between OSGeo-Live and Portable GIS.<br>
> Eg, the OSGeo-Live Project Overviews could note whether the project is<br>
> available on Portable GIS.<br>
><br>
> We could also potentially align OSGeo-Live and Portable GIS release<br>
> schedules (which would help with aligning documentation).<br>
><br>
> Re packaging, have you considered building with cygwin (which is Open<br>
> Source)?<br>
><br>
> I'm happy to answer questions about license. While I'm not a lawyer, I have<br>
> been involved in plenty of licensing selection discussions, including for<br>
> OSGeo-Live.<br>
><br>
> Re Portable GIS licensing, I assume your build tools are not embedded in the<br>
> final Portable GIS software distribution? That would mean that the final<br>
> software distribution does not inherit to the license of the build tools. So<br>
> I suspect you should be ok to select what ever license you choose for the<br>
> build tools. That is how we have approached the OSGeo-Live build scripts,<br>
> which are LGPL. (Documentation is licensed under CC-By for Project Overviews<br>
> and CC-By-SA for Quickstarts).<br>
><br>
> Warm regards, Cameron<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 24/8/17 1:22 am, Jo Cook wrote:<br>
><br>
> Hi Jody and list,<br>
><br>
> Having had a bit of a think about licensing, I had previously chosen GPLv3<br>
> *for my components alone* and I think I'm happy with that. As far as I can<br>
> tell, I can license my modifications alone with GPLv3 regardless of what the<br>
> software projects themselves are. I've had a look at how OSGeo Live works,<br>
> but that doesn't help much (<a href="https://live.osgeo.org/en/copyright.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://live.osgeo.org/en/cop<wbr>yright.html</a>). Is<br>
> there anyone on the list who could help me out with this- basically to<br>
> confirm or deny?<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> Jo<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Jo Cook <<a href="mailto:jocook@astuntechnology.com" target="_blank">jocook@astuntechnology.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Jody,<br>
>><br>
>> That all sounds really encouraging and yes I'd be happy to go through the<br>
>> process with you and the team. We (Astun) potentially have another project<br>
>> that we'd like to submit for consideration too, and I'll be in touch<br>
>> separately about that one.<br>
>><br>
>> Regarding autoit, no you don't need to purchase anything to use it. Having<br>
>> thought about this in some more detail, I think I will try to move away from<br>
>> that dependency and try to find an open source alternative but that will<br>
>> obviously take some time to work through, so it would be good if we could<br>
>> start working through the process of becoming a community project while that<br>
>> is ongoing.<br>
>><br>
>> I'll make some tweaks to the repository to make sure that the various docs<br>
>> are easy to find, and then maybe come back to you when that's ready. I want<br>
>> to think a little about whether I'm using the most appropriate license too.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> Jo<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Glad to hear from you Jo!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Although the "OSGeo community" initiative was started last year, we have<br>
>>> not had a chance to try it out yet (perhaps due to lack of publicity). If<br>
>>> you are patient with us we would enjoy going through this process with you,<br>
>>> and revising our notes as we go.<br>
>>><br>
>>> The wiki OSGeo Community Projects page has the following recipe:<br>
>>><br>
>>> If your project would like to join OSGeo the technology initiative asks:<br>
>>><br>
>>> That your project is geospatial (or directly supports geospatial<br>
>>> applications);<br>
>>><br>
>>> Data & doc projects would of course need an appropriate data or<br>
>>> documentation license<br>
>>><br>
>>> That your project is open source<br>
>>><br>
>>> Uses an OSI approved open source license<br>
>>> That you know where your source code came from, and that care is taken<br>
>>> when accepting external contributions<br>
>>><br>
>>> Participatory (accepts pull-requests)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Along with a few notes on how we can quickly check the LICENSE,<br>
>>> CONTRIBUTING, README files.<br>
>>><br>
>>> autoit<br>
>>><br>
>>> Your question about autoit is tricky, it is freely distributable - so not<br>
>>> a barrier to use. We are actually in a similar spot for the GeoTools and<br>
>>> GeoServer projects. When they were first created Java was not open source so<br>
>>> there were some very heated discussions with the gvSig team on if you could<br>
>>> ever make a free software solution using Java.<br>
>>><br>
>>> But we are an open source software foundation (not at a free software<br>
>>> foundation) allowing GeoTools, GeoServer .. and by extension autoit.<br>
>>><br>
>>> This question of Java still troubles us, while Java is now open source,<br>
>>> the image processing library that was included in Java is still only free to<br>
>>> distribute. This causes problems for the OSGeo Live and uDig projects.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I would be concerned though if people need to purchase autoit in order to<br>
>>> work on your project? There is a slight difference between being required to<br>
>>> purchase a tool, and optionally using a tool. For GeoTools we can "work<br>
>>> with" the Oracle Database (if user installs the right jars they have<br>
>>> downloaded from Oracle) or ArcSDE (if the user installs the right jars they<br>
>>> have purchased from ESRI). However if a contributor is not in possession of<br>
>>> these artifacts they can still work on the project as a whole.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Jody Garnett<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 22 August 2017 at 06:25, Jo Cook <<a href="mailto:jocook@astuntechnology.com" target="_blank">jocook@astuntechnology.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Hi Incubator List,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> As you may or may not know, I have been running a small project called<br>
>>>> Portable GIS (GIS on a USB stick for Windows) for a number of years. The<br>
>>>> basic premise is to provide a no-install, no-config version of many of the<br>
>>>> common open source GIS projects on a USB stick.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Recently I built a website for the project (<a href="http://portablegis.xyz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">portablegis.xyz</a>) and I'm<br>
>>>> working through the process of documenting and publishing all the<br>
>>>> configuration changes that need to be made to make projects portable (mainly<br>
>>>> batch files to be honest). This also includes the source code for building<br>
>>>> the menu and installer files.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> This is on Gitlab at <a href="https://gitlab.com/archaeogeek/portable-gis" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gitlab.com/archaeogeek<wbr>/portable-gis</a> so that<br>
>>>> I can now start accepting contributions. Note that this repository does not<br>
>>>> contain the actual source code for the projects such as QGIS, it just<br>
>>>> contains the files that need to be adjusted to make it work portably.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> One of my colleagues has suggested that Portable GIS could be an OSGeo<br>
>>>> Community Project, so here I am, asking about it :-)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> My main concern is that autoit, which I used for building the menu, is<br>
>>>> freeware rather than opensource (see <a href="https://www.autoitscript.com/site/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.autoitscript.com/s<wbr>ite/</a> and<br>
>>>> specifically <a href="https://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/docs/license.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.autoitscript.com/a<wbr>utoit3/docs/license.htm</a>). My gut<br>
>>>> feeling is that this bars Portable GIS from being truly open source, and<br>
>>>> hence not suitable for being an OSGeo Community Project. Would that be<br>
>>>> correct?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If this was the only bar to entry, I could certainly look at alternative<br>
>>>> options for building the menu.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Regards<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Jo<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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>>>><br>
>>>><br>
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>><br>
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>><br>
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