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<p>Thanks Jody,</p>
<p>I think you have some good practical ideas here, which should be
fairly easy to gain consensus around.</p>
<p>I'd suggest the next step would be draw up ideas into a draft
(probably using existing wiki as a basis) which we can comment on
and then vote on.</p>
<p>This is not time critical, so could wait until after marketing
initiatives are less time consuming. <br>
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<p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/9/17 2:56 am, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Morning Cameron good to hear from you.
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<div>In a couple email threads, and the most recent board
meeting, we are getting input on what makes a good community
project (and what kind of projects we wish to promote as open
source spatial).</div>
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<div>I love the idea of aligning the very short community
project checklist and the incubation checklist. In particular
we hit on a great way to communicate our incubation ideals
during the marketing/rebranding by emphasizing open,
geospatial and fair.</div>
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<div>1) CONTIRBUTING.md and LICENSE.md are best practices from
github allowing projects to be searched effectively, and the
appropriate instructions shown to those making pull requests
(not as effective as a CLA but something).</div>
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<div>2) Check the headers - I am hoping for something lighter
weight then the provenance review (which requires checking
history). Several projects have done multi-file searches (we
can provide a grep example) to detect files without a header.
This subject has been complicated by our recent osgeo legal
advice that headers are not required as many of have been
taught (but that LICENSE file is).</div>
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<div>This provides three easy checks, all of which introduce our
priorities as a software foundation:</div>
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<div>- fair: Check for a <a href="http://contirbuting.md"
moz-do-not-send="true">contirbuting.md</a> file (required
for github, but need should be met somehow for other
platforms)</div>
<div>- open: The quick check is looking for a LICENSE.md
(github) or LICENSE.txt file and confirming it is on the OSI
approved list. I hope a grep can identify any files with out
headers and a void a time sync.</div>
<div>- geospatial: This is the tricky one to confirm - any
suggestions?</div>
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<div>Implicit in this is a tension between being flexible (many
projects can show they are open to contributions by citing
their developers guide rather than including a CONTRIBUTING
file) and prescriptive (tell projects exactly what to do). I
would personally err on communication; we are doing open
source advocacy here so it is more important that projects
*are* participatory than that they have exactly the right
files.</div>
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<div>There are a few more requirements from the discuss list
focusing on borderline cases between open source and free
software. I would like us to take care to be kind to each
other discussing this balance and not lose sight of our strong
core of geospatial/open/fair.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 12 September 2017 at 02:32,
Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a
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wrote:<br>
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<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important;float:none">Hi
incubation committee,</span></p>
<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important;float:none">One
thing the OSGeo-Live community have picked up is
that OSGeo Community projects are being asked for
CONTRIBUTING.md and LICENSE.md files [1], however
there isn't an obvious corresponding requirement
for this in the OSGeo Incubation Graduation
Checklist [2].</span></p>
<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important;float:none">I'd
suggest that the Graduation Checklist probably
needs updating.</span></p>
<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important;float:none">I
also notice the requirement for Community projects
to check headers for Open Source compliance,
although there isn't specific guidance on how
such checks should be applied. It sounds very
similar to a "Provenance Review". Our experience
with OSGeo incubation is that the "Provenance
Review" is usually the biggest time sink and
stumbling block for projects going through
incubation. I'd be interested to hear Jody's
thoughts on this.</span></p>
<p><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);display:inline!important;float:none">Warm
regards, Cameron<br>
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href="http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/project_graduation_checklist.html"
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