<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi Jody (and all),<br><br></div>As you mention the motion is not quite passed yet, I want to add my community support to this vote.<br><br>+1<br><br></div>Regards,<br></div>Julien.<br><div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-11-04 19:44 GMT+01:00 Vicky Vergara <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vicky@georepublic.de" target="_blank">vicky@georepublic.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Jody,</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Permission was granted on the mail text. I reiterate that permission.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jody Garnett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks Vicky, motion is not quite passed yet (waiting on 100% response for the electronic voting).<div><br></div><div>I note that the <a href="mailto:board-priv@osgeo.org" target="_blank">board-priv@osgeo.org</a> list is available if you have any questions you would like to raise privately.</div><div><br></div><div>You can see a couple of approaches in play here:</div><div>- Earlier on the incubation thread I asked the incubation committee to consider my early involvement with OSGeo live and if it would be a hindrance to acting as mentor.</div><div>- During MOT1 voting I responded with +1, noting my role as incubation chair</div><div>- During MOT1 voting you can see Angelos abstain with a +0 vote, noting his role as PSC chair</div><div><br></div><div>The board has addressed these kind of tensions previously, asking directors to acknowledge if they are affected by the matter at hand - but still vote in a responsible fashion as a director of OSGeo. This issue comes up a lot for directors, because they are part of OSGeo and are affected by most decisions.</div><div><br></div><div>With your permission I would like to pass your question and the above answer to the board email list. I try not to cross post since that leads to madness.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_7805085964360994943m_2791982012186277272gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="m_7805085964360994943h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 November 2017 at 10:19, Vicky Vergara <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vicky@georepublic.de" target="_blank">vicky@georepublic.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hello all</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">As member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live, I am glad to read that the motion of considering OSGeo-Live for incubation has passed.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I
am concerned because the the incubator committee has a member
that has a conflict of interest because is also a member of the PSC of
OSGeo-Live project, and he voted +1.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I expressed my concern in the "Juez y Parte" thread of [1], where is "clear" that there is no guideline of the action to be taken on a committee member when there is a conflict of interest. (the thread has a link to the incubator committee guidelines [2])<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I
must say that, at least, the committee member with the conflict of interest, mentioned his involvement when voting, but he didn't
step down from the committee, or voted in such a way that his vote would
not influence the over all result like a (+0)<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> So, The next step is for the board for approval.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">And my concern grows thinking on how the board with two board members also on the PSC of OSGeo-Live, so more conflict of interest.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I was doubtful of which was the correct mailing list to make this post. (Here or Discuss) but having Jody as part of Board, I leave the decision to him if this new concern of mine "Juez y Parte" but for board making decision on projects they belong to.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I want things made done right. Our project application, as far as I can see, can be used to make more precise written rules/policies about conflicts of interest.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> But what I would not want is someone else in the future, to notice and make a big fuss/attack of "how bad X person acted when having a conflict of interest".<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span>I wonder if there is a guideline equivalent to the incubator committee guideline but for board.</span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Vicky<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div>[1] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003394.html" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/piperm<wbr>ail/incubator/2017-October/003<wbr>394.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">[2] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Committee_Guidelines" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Co<wbr>mmittee_Guidelines</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_7805085964360994943m_2791982012186277272h5">On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Jody Garnett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_7805085964360994943m_2791982012186277272h5"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:12.800000190734863px">The motion has now passed:<div><br></div><div><span class="m_7805085964360994943m_2791982012186277272m_-36499741094792295m_-7459726993120942017gmail-im"><span><div> Accept the OSGeo-Live <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2002" target="_blank">incubation application</a>, with Jody Garnett acting as mentor.</div><div><br></div></span><div>With the following support:</div></span><div><ul><span class="m_7805085964360994943m_2791982012186277272m_-36499741094792295m_-7459726993120942017gmail-im"><li style="margin-left:15px">Bruce Bannerman +1<br></li><li style="margin-left:15px">Bob (CI-StPaul) Basques +1<br></li><span><li style="margin-left:15px">Landon Blake<br></li><li style="margin-left:15px">Howard Butler<br></li><li style="margin-left:15px">Arnulf Christl<br></li><li style="margin-left:15px">Jody Garnett +1 initial motion<br></li></span><li style="margin-left:15px">Dimitris Kotzinos +0 (question between project / initiative )<br></li><li style="margin-left:15px">Tom Kralidis +1<br></li></span><span><li style="margin-left:15px">Julien-Samuel Lacroix +1<br></li><li style="margin-left:15px">Mark Lucas<br></li></span><li style="margin-left:15px">Steve Lime +1<br></li><span><li style="margin-left:15px">Daniel Morissette +1<br></li><li style="margin-left:15px">Markus Schneider<br></li><li style="margin-left:15px">Cameron Shorter +1<br></li><li style="margin-left:15px">Norman Vine<br></li><li style="margin-left:15px">Frank Warmerdam<br></li></span></ul></div><div>Community support:</div><div><ul><li style="margin-left:15px">pending</li></ul><div>Welcome to the incubation program OSGeo-Live, I will take an action item to the next board meeting for approval.</div></div></div></div></div>
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Salzmannstraße 44,
81739 München, Germany
Vicky Vergara
Operations Research
eMail: vicky@<a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">georepublic.de</a>
Web: <a href="https://georepublic.info" target="_blank">https://georepublic.info</a>
Tel: +49 (089) 4161 7698-1
Fax: +49 (089) 4161 7698-9
Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
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