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    <p>Vicky,</p>
    <p>Jody sums up my thoughts well.</p>
    <p>I believe I'm one of the people who has a conflicting interest.</p>
    <p>(I voted +1 - noting my position on the OSGeo-Live PSC)<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/11/17 6:06 am, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Thanks Vicky, motion is not quite passed yet
        (waiting on 100% response for the electronic voting).
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        <div>I note that the <a href="mailto:board-priv@osgeo.org"
            moz-do-not-send="true">board-priv@osgeo.org</a> list is
          available if you have any questions you would like to raise
          privately.</div>
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        <div>You can see a couple of approaches in play here:</div>
        <div>- Earlier on the incubation thread I asked the incubation
          committee to consider my early involvement with OSGeo live and
          if it would be a hindrance to acting as mentor.</div>
        <div>- During MOT1 voting I responded with +1, noting my role as
          incubation chair</div>
        <div>- During MOT1 voting you can see Angelos abstain with a +0
          vote, noting his role as PSC chair</div>
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        <div>The board has addressed these kind of tensions previously,
          asking directors to acknowledge if they are affected by the
          matter at hand - but still vote in a responsible fashion as a
          director of OSGeo. This issue comes up a lot for directors,
          because they are part of OSGeo and are affected by most
          decisions.</div>
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        <div>With your permission I would like to pass your question and
          the above answer to the board email list. I try not to cross
          post since that leads to madness.</div>
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                  <div>--</div>
                  <div>Jody Garnett</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 3 November 2017 at 10:19, Vicky
          Vergara <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hello
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">As
                  member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live, I am glad to read
                  that the motion of considering OSGeo-Live for
                  incubation has passed.</div>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I am
                  concerned because the the incubator committee has a
                  member that has a conflict of interest because is also
                  a member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live project, and he
                  voted +1.</div>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I
                  expressed my concern in the "Juez y Parte" thread of
                  [1], where is "clear" that there is no guideline of
                  the action to be taken on a committee member when
                  there is a conflict of interest. (the thread has a
                  link to the incubator committee guidelines [2])<br>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I must
                  say that, at least, the committee member with the
                  conflict of interest, mentioned his involvement when
                  voting, but he didn't step down from the committee, or
                  voted in such a way that his vote would not influence
                  the over all result like a (+0)<br>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> So,
                  The next step is for the board for approval.<br>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">And my
                  concern grows thinking on how the board with two board
                  members also on the PSC of OSGeo-Live, so more
                  conflict of interest.</div>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I was
                  doubtful of which was the correct mailing list to make
                  this post. (Here or Discuss) but having Jody as part
                  of Board, I leave the decision to him if this new
                  concern of mine "Juez y Parte" but for board making
                  decision on projects they belong to.</div>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I want
                  things made done right. Our project application, as
                  far as I can see, can  be used to make more precise
                  written rules/policies about conflicts of interest.</div>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> But
                  what I would not want is someone else in the future,
                  to notice and make a big fuss/attack of "how bad X
                  person acted when having a conflict of interest".<br>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span>I
                    wonder if there is a guideline equivalent to the
                    incubator committee guideline but for board.</span></div>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards</div>
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                  style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Vicky<br>
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                [1] <a
href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/incubator/2017-October/003394.html"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/<wbr>pipermail/incubator/2017-<wbr>October/003394.html</a>​</div>
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                  href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Committee_Guidelines"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/<wbr>Committee_Guidelines</a><br>
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                  <div class="h5">On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:58 AM, Jody
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                          motion has now passed:
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                                <div>   Accept the OSGeo-Live <a
                                    href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2002"
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                                    moz-do-not-send="true">incubation
                                    application</a>, with Jody Garnett
                                  acting as mentor.</div>
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                              <div>With the following support:</div>
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                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Bruce
                                    Bannerman +1<br>
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                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Bob
                                    (CI-StPaul) Basques +1<br>
                                  </li>
                                  <span>
                                    <li style="margin-left:15px">Landon
                                      Blake<br>
                                    </li>
                                    <li style="margin-left:15px">Howard
                                      Butler<br>
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                                    <li style="margin-left:15px">Arnulf
                                      Christl<br>
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                                    <li style="margin-left:15px">Jody
                                      Garnett +1 initial motion<br>
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                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Dimitris
                                    Kotzinos +0 (question between
                                    project / initiative )<br>
                                  </li>
                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Tom
                                    Kralidis +1<br>
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                                </span><span>
                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Julien-Samuel
                                    Lacroix +1<br>
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                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Mark
                                    Lucas<br>
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                                </span>
                                <li style="margin-left:15px">Steve Lime
                                  +1<br>
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                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Daniel
                                    Morissette +1<br>
                                  </li>
                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Markus
                                    Schneider<br>
                                  </li>
                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Cameron
                                    Shorter +1<br>
                                  </li>
                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Norman
                                    Vine<br>
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                                  <li style="margin-left:15px">Frank
                                    Warmerdam<br>
                                  </li>
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                            <div>Community support:</div>
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                                <li style="margin-left:15px">pending</li>
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                              <div>Welcome to the incubation program
                                OSGeo-Live, I will take an action item
                                to the next board meeting for approval.</div>
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