<html><head/><body><html><head><meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width" /><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/vnd.ui.insecure+html;charset=utf-8" /></head><body style="overflow-wrap:break-word; word-break: break-word;"><div class="mail_android_message" style="line-height: 1; padding: 0.5em">Dear Jody,<br>
<br>
I wait to answer your questions about a successful OSGeo community effort for several years now until other incubation committee members will rise up their questions too.<br>
<br>
As being a volunteering effort by the OSGeo community to bring the OSGeo stack by a smooth way to a really wide user community on a specific operating system, it should be respected that already quite amount of work has be done for several years now to keep the OSGeo4W environment running.<br>
<br>
Thus the overhead to be listed on the OSGeo website should be the lowest as possible. So let's wait what other incubation committee members have to say.<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
Helmut<br>
<br>
OSGeo charter member<br>
-- </div><div class="mail_android_quote" style="line-height: 1; padding: 0.3em">Am 22.01.18, 23:52, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com> schrieb:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0.8ex 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div>Quick question - where is the codebase for OSGeo4W, we have three things we are looking to check....<div><br /></div><div>Okay this might be it: <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/browser" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/browser</a></div><div><br /></div><div>1) geospatial - yes :)</div><div><br /></div><div>2) open source - not sure I could find a specific license file in the codebase</div><div><br /></div><div>3) open to contributions</div><div><br /></div><div>Found a list of contributors with a invitation to take part <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/browser/trunk/setup/CONTRIBUTORS" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/browser/trunk/setup/CONTRIBUTORS</a> but it appears to be for cygwin not OSGeo4W</div><div><br /></div><div>Now we do not have to answer these questions from the codebase, so let’s tey the wiki. </div><div><br /></div><div>Q: Open Source?</div><div>Looking around for license information found <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/AboutLicenses" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/AboutLicenses</a> - this describes the contents, but does not seem to describe the open source license used on OSGeo4W itself....<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Q: Open to Contirbutions?</div><div><br /></div><div>The wiki has a couple sections for developers, GSOC ideas </div><div><br /></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" /><div><div class="m_-2818995800185366933gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div><div><div><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br /><div class="gmail_quote">On 22 January 2018 at 02:44, Helmut Kudrnovsky <span><<a href="mailto:hellik@web.de" target="_blank">hellik@web.de</a>></span> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">[<a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/553" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/553</a>]:<br />
[<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037046.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037046.html</a>]:<br />
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>From discuss email:<br />
<br />
Hi community,<br />
<br />
as we've seen in the Google Code‑in contest and students' feedback, MS<br />
windows is still an important operating system within the user base of the<br />
OSGeo stack.<br />
<br />
Beside the windows standalone installers of e.g. QGIS or winGRASS (both<br />
are based upon OSGeo4W), the OSGeo4W framework itself is a very important<br />
platform to deliver the OSGeo stack to the users of this operating system.<br />
<br />
As an example, when I'm helping winGRASS users on the GRASS user ML, I'm<br />
often refering to use OSGeo4W-winGRASS in order to check if the<br />
issue/problem is also there.<br />
<br />
Furthermore, OSGeo4W is also an important testing platform as it's<br />
possible to use/test the latest greatest dailys of e.g. QGIS3 or GRASS7.4svn<br />
on the windows operating system.<br />
<br />
Another example, University of Vienna deploys OSGeo4W to all its public<br />
students PCs.<br />
<br />
Searching [1] and screening the new website, there seems to be no<br />
information about/no link to OSGeo4W [2].<br />
<br />
Is this intentional? Just overseen?<br />
<br />
OSGeo will loose new and interested users of the OSGeo software stack<br />
when no one can find the nice framework for the still most used operating<br />
system.<br />
<br />
Kind regards Helmut<br />
<br />
<br />
OSGeo charter member<br />
<br />
[1] <a href="https://www.osgeo.org/search/OSGeo4W" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/search/OSGeo4W</a><br />
[2] <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/</a><br />
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<br />
To request "editor" permission (for creating a project page) please speak to<br />
the incubation committee as outlined here:<br />
<a href="http://osgeo.org/committees/incubation" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://osgeo.org/committees/incubation</a><br />
<br />
Would love to see OSGeo4W listed on the new website, or better yet as a<br />
community project.<br />
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<br />
<br />
[<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037049.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037049.html</a>]:<br />
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Hi Jody,<br />
<br />
On Sat, 20. Jan 2018 at 21:15:27 -0800, Jody Garnett wrote:<br />
> Helmut do you have any contact details for the OSGeo4W project?<br />
<br />
See <a href="http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w</a><br />
<br />
<br />
Jürgen<br />
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<br />
<br />
[<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037054.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037054.html</a>]:<br />
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Jody,<br />
<br />
the OSGeo4W framework exits since more than 10 years now; the first entry in<br />
the OSGeo4W-ML dates back to November 2007.<br />
<br />
AFAIK there are few volunteers nowadays [1] to keep the framework running;<br />
mainly Jürgen F. and Martin L.; I maintain a small package to<br />
easily bridge the OSGeo4W framework and R (<a href="http://www.r-project.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.r-project.org</a>) and help in<br />
winGRASS if needed; and some other few volunteers helps from time to time.<br />
<br />
> Please ask the OSGeo4W team to contact the incubation<br />
> committee[<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/</a>] (for edit<br />
> access to create a project page).<br />
<br />
So, I may ask the incubation committee for edit access to create a project<br />
page.<br />
<br />
Helmut<br />
<br />
[1] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/osgeo4w-dev/2007-November/date.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/osgeo4w-dev/2007-November/date.html</a><br />
[2] <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/CoreTeam" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/wiki/CoreTeam</a><br />
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<br />
[<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037064.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037064.html</a>]:<br />
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Although it would be great to be a commuity project - the project team does<br />
need to ask - for more information see<br />
<a href="http://osgeo.org/committees/incubation" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://osgeo.org/committees/incubation</a><br />
<br />
Specifically OSGeo community project are recognized as part of the<br />
foundation; we would like to treat all projects equally (even those that<br />
have been around since 2007).<br />
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<br />
<br />
[<a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/553#comment:4" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/553#comment:4</a>]<br />
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Replying to jive:<br />
<br />
Nice, I saw it there based on the email thread - do you mind joining the<br />
incubation committee mailing list<br />
(<a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator</a>) and asking to be<br />
listed on the website.<br />
<br />
We have a very quick spot check to confirm each project is geospatial,<br />
open source and accepts contributions.<br />
<br />
I will do; OSGeo4W is a OSGeo community initiative since more than 10 years<br />
and well documented in an OSGeo trac instance.<br />
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<br />
<br />
herewith, for the sake of completeness, I ask on behalf of OSGeo4W, an<br />
OSGeo community initiative since more than 10 years, to be listed on the new<br />
OSGeo website.<br />
<br />
<br />
[<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/</a>]:<br />
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How to list your project on the OSGeo website?<br />
<br />
The OSGeo website is proud to promote a wide range of geospatial open source<br />
software.<br />
<br />
Project requirements:<br />
<br />
geospatial<br />
open source license<br />
accepts contributions<br />
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<br />
OSGeo4W provides the OSGeo stack (e.g. proj4, GDAL, GRASS GIS, QGIS etc) in<br />
an easy way for the MS windows operating system.<br />
<br />
Thus OSGeo4W is geospatial.<br />
<br />
The OSGeo stack and the OSGeo4W installer are open source.<br />
<br />
The upstream OSGeo stack (e.g. proj4, GDAL, GRASS GIS, QGIS etc) accepts<br />
contributions and also OSGeo4W installer.<br />
<br />
<br />
Kind regards<br />
Helmut<br />
OSGeo charter member<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
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best regards<br />
Helmut<br />
--<br />
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